I wouldn't be surprised if the Body of Governors have had seances in an attempt to talk to Freddy Franz to get some fresh ideas.
Don't they actually believe that the work is being directed by those that have received their heavenly reward?
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New Study Watchtower Celebrates 100 year Anniversary of the Kingdom
by Skinnedsheep init is painful to read.
check out the 1/15/14 wt.
i am going to throw an invisible party to celebrate.
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Why the delay on the 1/15/14 study edition?
by Skinnedsheep init has been more than a month since the last study edition release.
come on "mother" your children are hungry.
i need some of the craziness that only your deluded fds chefs can cook up.. aren't they usually on the dot when it comes to the release of the magazines?.
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Memorial 2014 is a blood moon
Memorial 2015 is also blood moon
New International Version Acts: 2:20
The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and
glorious day of the Lord.
New International Version (NIV) Revelation 6:12
12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like
sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,
Good News Translation (GNT) Joel 2:31
31 The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will turn red as blood
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Interesting movie trivia fact about new WT Headquarters location
by WingCommander inhere is a weird fact: as i was watching the official wt video about the new headquarters project (can be seen on jw.org), i recognized the building they were tearing down, the front shot of it.
because this building was used exclusively in the 1986 movie, "the manhattan project".
it's kind of a cult-classic favourite movie from my youth that i still watch.
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scotoma
So JWgod is directing them to get involved in this historic project that won't be finished until 2017.
In that video they are extolling the beauty of the developement. "You brothers are going to LOVE it" "We have some special surprises for you when you come to visit it."
JWgod is telling us we will still have freedom of movement and free time to waste on a JW Hajj or Pilgrimage. We know we have at least 4 years because Jehovah wouldn't have his people
spend so much time building an edifice that was of no value.
So if we have a minimum of 4 years why do they keep saying we are right at the threshold of the Great Tribulation.
So what's the message from JWgod? You have plenty of time to build your lovely dwelling and inhabit it and display it proudly to visitors. Or is the message - "we have very little time left"
Last time they said we have very little time they successfully built a real estate empire.
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Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
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My Lord talks to me at the beginning of every month.
He saith unto me: "Remember, thy rent is due."
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Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
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scotoma
Where is God's voice. Why can't he talk. Is the one who created words, language, and larynx unable to say one damn word himself.
We can hear. So the ball is in his court. He has to speak and quit playing this desert sheik role where he is "so special".
How dare you expect us to buy into your halucination that you are the one speaking in behalf of God.
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Why Watchtower Baptism Is An Ineffective Rite Of Passage
by metatron ina bunch of half naked young people wait in line, holding towels.
their demeanor is commonly that of kids in high school waiting in a cafeteria line.
one by one, they get dunked under water and are thereafter responsible for total sexual fidelity - and a long list of other rules - even though none of them is of the legal age of consent for sexual intercourse - and some of them may not have even hit puberty yet.. are you f**king kidding me?
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Are there examples of anyone in the bible getting baptized before they were a mature human?
There was Samuel but that was a rare example of a young boy becoming an apprentice priest.
Baptism was always in conjuction with a person's being annointed.
What role does an annointed 10 year old have.
Suppose a 10 year old is baptized and is martyred. That presents a strange case. Does he suddenly miss out
on the normal human maturation process.
All things are possible when you are talking mythology and you make up the story.
Children should NOT be baptized.
I know. I was 10. I'm now pushing 70. I don't even remember the date of my baptism. I just know it was in May sometime.
This is a perfect case for the Watchtower to apply one of their favorite heuristics.-- "Since there is NO incident where something occurred in the Bible therefore it must be wrong."
There is NO example where a Christian or faithful Hebrew celebrated their birthday...therefore its wrong.
There is NO specific case in the Bible where people were killed on a cross... therefore it never happened.
There is NO case where a young child was baptized there fore it must be wrong.
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Jehovah made the deal fail so I could go where they needed me more
by NVR2L8 ina few weeks back i ran into an elder at a business meeting out of town.
i had seen him there before when i was a ms. this time i had a chance to tell him that my standing in the congregation had changed and that i was inactive.
he said that sometimes we need to take some time to reevaluate where we stand in the "truth".
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Nvr2l8
Don't think for a moment that your conversation changed him one bit.
He will keep saying that Jehovah managed his business.
It's part of the big narrative that he has to have.
You need to give them electro shock to break up some of the nonsense circuits. Then a couple waterboardings might help.
But casual conversation? Forget about it.
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2014 Year Text "Let Your Kingdom Come"
by scotoma inguy pierece mentioned the years text as let your kingdom come and then dropped the line "it's been 100 years since the kingdom was established in the heavens".. that was it.
wouldn't the 2013 corp meeting be the appropriate time to be discussing that milestone - instead of waiting til 2014 is 3/4 over next october.. obviously they don't want to dwell on the 100 years because it really puts the old light about the generation in a "bad light".
doesn't a centennial deserve a proper celebration?.
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Guy Pierece mentioned the years text as Let Your Kingdom Come and then dropped the line "it's been 100 years since the Kingdom was established in the heavens".
That was it.
Wouldn't the 2013 Corp Meeting be the appropriate time to be discussing that milestone - instead of waiting til 2014 is 3/4 over next October.
Obviously they don't want to dwell on the 100 years because it really puts the old light about the generation in a "BAD LIGHT"
Doesn't a centennial deserve a proper celebration?
I think the proper year text should be "Where is this promised presence"
Oh well, that makes me a ridiculer.
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I suspect the WTS mut be feeling pretty good about their own internal security...
by sir82 in...since it evidently was not confirmed in advance that the agm was going to be exclusively about releasing the rnwt.. i mean, we all kinda sorta expected it, but no one had a "smoking gun", as it were, officially confirming it.. in contrast, there was the leak, posted on this forum, of the july 15 2013 watchtower, a week or 2 before its official posting on jw.org.. .
i'm sure the rnwt was a well-guarded secret - on the other hand, there has been a rnwt translation committee in existence for 5+ years.
absolutely no one in the "apostate community" even hinted at this committee's existence.
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scotoma
The gray bibles that were seen in a few places was a test of the new binding and cover. It probably was just the regular NWT. It was mentioned at the meeting that they had been testing the covers and that they were proven to be "sister proof".
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Bible Hoarders.
by scotoma ini was really turned off by the segment of the meeting dealing with the watchtower's bible collection.
i thought i was at the antique road show on pbs.. what was that all about?
it was so bizzarre for these "annointed" ones to get off on collecting these old printed bibles.. you can get excellent scans of just about any historical document.. looked like a personal hobby of sanderson the nararator.. there is something idolatrous and at the very least a sick display of the hoarding instinct in the glee coming from getting their "paws" on these treasures.. what a disappointment to see a religion started by people who wanted to abandon all earthly things and join christ in the air, fawn over these relics carefully preserved as a memorial they can fondle.. are they really in the museum business now?
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Bildad,
I love museums. I wish it could all be under one big roof. I am a serious visitor to museums. I actually read what the curators write. I actually listen to the audio tours.
I believe in museums as an instructional tool and important function of society.
But what the hell. The Watchtower denies us the luxury of such "frivolous" non Kingdom pursuits. They would frown on expending our personal resources and time with a hobby.
Ray Franz said that Karl Klein advised those who have an inclination toward critical thinking to take up a hobby so they don't become apostates.
Apparently that's what Sanderson has done.