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  When Did JW's Ever Make You Feel Cared For?

  by Englishman in

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  so-called apostates are, imo, actually persons who have been refined in the fires of criticism so that their true personalities shine through.

  apostates are the best, most loyal friends in the whole world.

  they do not have to worry about whether something is right or wrong, they are free to act upon instinct, upon feeling, upon their innermost emotions.. not for them the wearisome, tiresome, boring old its either right or its wrong mentality that cripples the acolytes of the wtbts!

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  I'm not sure that I agree with anything you've said. I just don't think it's that cut and dried. Just because JWs treat apostates badly doesn't mean they treat each other badly. They are no better, no worse than any small community group. The usual undercurrents and bad feelings run riot - but so too do happy times with support and love when someone is in real trouble. The problem stems from them believing they are better than "the world", which clearly they are not. They are just the same as everyone else. Of course they should be better, if applying Bible principals is the name of the game.

  I don't think apostates are particularly superior to JWs or any one else. I believe that when we leave the Organisation, we revert to our old personalities. We will have experienced a sharp learning curve and hopefully some major personal growth, but I don't feel I'm much different to my friends who I knew before dubdom and know again now. Time and experience matures us all. I like Apostates but I do not have rose coloured glasses on where they are concerned. Some of them are not my 'cup of tea' and some have the ability to make me feel wonderful. That's life. It's just the same as the community at large. It's why we draw close to some people and kinda ignore others. (it's our own little shunning program done with more finesse than the Org.)

  I believe that the same ratio of decent people lurk beneath the skin of JWs as exist in the community at large. Let's just hope that lots of them find their way to freedom sooner than later.

  Marilyn
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  Out with a bang....plus Elders (Gestapo) visit....

  by TheApostleAK in

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  just da'd myself the other day...announcement tonight.. -------------------------------.

  alan xxxxxxxxxx.

  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

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  Hi Alan, How are you feeling in yourself? It's a pretty big deal yeah? You seem to have a good command of current WT beliefs and have made an excellent account of yourself. It's a very frustrating business because at the end of the day they aren't interested in logic or points of view. Anything rational you say is passed off as the thoughts of Satan. How can you argue with that?

  Anyway I just wanted to add my appreciation for the effort you put in and applaud you for your stand.

  Marilyn
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  REUNION WITH JW SIS AFTER 20 YRS OF SHUNNING

  by California Sunshine in

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  today is mar 25th.

  ive decided to write about this and post it when im done.

  dont know when that will be.

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  Sunny, I know how you feel. I've been shunned by my siblings for 20 yrs also. My disfellowshipping (for apostasy) dates back to April 1981! - So I'm coming up for 21 now!!! The only thing that happened to us last year was my older brothers daughter came to visit us and she was so lovely and happy to be meeting us. It felt completely sureal. I'm sure you and I could have a great old natter about how respective family troubles - thanx to the Troof!!!

  love
  Marilyn
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  Decided to get baptized again!!

  by Tatiana in

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  lol-------not!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  have a great day!!!.

  april.

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  My neighbour phoned me at 12.15am and told me to come over coz her baby was on the way. I had to look after the 3 yo asleep in it's bed. The parents left and the 3 yo woke up immediately and started crying. After 2 hours I had settled the kid and was laying there wondering when sleep would come. In walks the parents back from the hospital. False alarm or April Fool? Whatever!
  Still yawning
  Marilyn
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  JW film in Australia

  by Dogpatch in

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  passing this on:.

  dear fellow recovering xjw's,.

  i have been consulting with kimberly ramsay, an independent filmmaker from .

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  Hi dogpatch - I have written to Kimberly asking for verification of her interest and if I received a reply from her I will then embark on the long and sorry tale of my years of misery courtesy of WTS!

  K?

  Marilyn
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  My girlfr and I went to the Assembly Hall today

  by coult9056 in

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  5 years removed from being inside the indianapolis assembly hall of jehovah's witnesses, 4 years from attending a meeting at the kingdom hall, this morning my girlfriend and i walked into the assembly hall.

  we were taking an early morning walk in our jogging clothes in downtown indy.

  she asked if there was anywhere i'd like to go.

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  Gosh it's lovely to hear the thoughts of so many newly outed (or ousted). I'm 21 yrs disfed for apostasy and the first 15 yrs were without the internet - just me and my husband and no other exjws to talk to. My husband was too busy getting educated (a Phd) but I seemed to go thru every emotional stage possible. Even so I don't think I could go into a KH or Assembly Hall even today. Even though I feel very sorry for JWs and I have absolutely no thoughts that they might be right in any way at all, I just wouldn't want to go into an arena that has caused so me so much pain and emotional suffering (family shunning). The other thing is that whenever I hear their rhetoric it makes me feel sick. I just don't have the patients for it anymore. I have also come to feel that they are soooooooooooo nice on the surface but it doesn't take long before they crawl out from under their veneer. And though I know they can't help it, I don't want to be around people like that. I can't help them so I'd rather stay away from them and leave them to their delusion. However I applaud coult for his ability to walk right on in there. Maybe it's the resilience of youth!

  Marilyn
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  *** Dateline ****

  by FairMinded in

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  does anyone has an update to the dateline piece?

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  Will, I fear your latter explanation might correct. This subject is becoming commercially ho hum because it's happening every where. The WOW value is deminishing daily. Plus the JWs are such a peewee group - they can't really cut it against the Catholics who everyone knows. Personally I would have thought that Dateline could have created a lot more human interest if they'd done a story on Shunning. They could really rip at the public's heart strings on that subject.

  Marilyn
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  Parents, A Rational Choice ?

  by garybuss in

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  parents, a rational choice .

  i was a believing walkaway (1974 ) from the group, jehovahs witnesses.

  i expected at some level that my walking away would be temporary.

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  :::::I've had similiar experiences in my family. I could never, still can't, tell my father something he doesn't want to hear. He's a child, 81 going on 4; stuck with the emotional makeup of a toddler. And I think you'll find that true of ALL Jehovah's Witnesses: emotional midgets.

  Gary, Your comments are always well and truly worth reading.

  I just wanted to comment on Francios's post. My father is 80 and I left the Organisation 21 yrs ago. For a lot of years we clashed over the WTS beliefs - even though I was d'fed (for no longer believing in God), my father used to ask me "when are you coming back to the truth?" and make comments like "you really know it's the truth". I always respected my father's mind because he would sit and read a TIME magazine from cover to cover or enthusiastically read the investigative articles in the newspaper but apparently his ability to critically analyse deserted him where the WTS was concerned. To make matters worse he'd suffered a major heart attack after I was d'fed and when ever we got into heated discussions he would have an angina attack. I was forced to back off a lot. I learned to pick my topics carefully and somehow over the years I have been successful in helping my father use his brain to think about what the WTS is really like. He's had a stroke more recently and gets a bit confused but in spite of his age and state of health, he knows what's wrong with the WTS. I'm very proud of him and it's proved to me that if you are patient and you demonstrate real humanity to loved ones they can eventually differentiate between WT truth and reality. I am sure that every case is different and it very much helped that my father and I are on the same wave length and have the same sense of humor. It just kills me when I make a witty oblique reference to something crazy about the Tower that my father is right there with me enjoying the joke.

  Marilyn
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  Why The Queen Mum Is Such A Big Deal

  by Englishman in

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  a few people have asked me why the death of the queens mother is such a big deal, so here goes:.

  in 1937, our king was edward the 8th.

  he was the eldest son of george the 5th, and, on georges death, he automatically became king.

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  Englishman, The Queen mum had a lot of style. It's hard to imagine she would have offended anyone in her long life. She is one person who has left the world a better place for her kindness and graciousness. I loved that recent moment - probably last year, when she was attending some Royal function and she thought the person next to her had taken her glass to which she replied (on camera no less): "Hey that's my drink!" We out here in the colonies thought it was priceless!

  Marilyn
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  A question for the English

  by apostate man in

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  i have no intentions of starting a flame.

  but, i have a few questions.. i was reading this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=24652&site=3&page=1 and it occured to me that americans and brits have a lot not in common.

  i will admit i am not very educated when it comes to england.

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  If the English are as smart as they would have us believe they would never have allowed the Watchtower trash into their country in the first place. It was an American religion, laced with American logic and American ego. It seems that no matter how crass or OTT Americans are, we in the rest of the world can't get enough of them. (the latter is known as a back handed compliment to the US)

  Marilyn