Why The Queen Mum Is Such A Big Deal

by Englishman 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    A few people have asked me why the death of the Queen’s Mother is such a big deal, so here goes:

    In 1937, our King was Edward the 8th. He was the eldest son of George the 5th, and, on George’s death, he automatically became King. The problem was that he was an unmarried fellow and he also had the hots for a twice divorced American lady named Wallis Simpson.

    As the monarch is, theoretically at least, the head of the Church of England, King Edwards pecadillo’s with his lady love were declared an absolute no-no. We can’t have some twice divorced American lady sat on the throne!

    Well, eventually, Edward 8th chooses his girl over the throne and says, stuff this King business, I want out, bye bye Buckingham palace, get yourselves another monarch! With that, he abdicated the throne and married the girlie of his dreams.

    Which meant that now England needed a new King. Next in line was the younger brother of Edward 8th, so the job went to him and, he duly became King of England, and was known as George, the sixth. Or, if you like, George 6th.

    Now George inherited the job as his birthright, as second eldest son he was next in the line of succession. However, George 6th was already married to Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, so she actually became Queen, but only a Queen through marriage, not by birthright. In real terms she was actually a consort, which meant that she was only a Queen as long as her husband was alive, if he died she would have to relinquish her title as Queen.

    2 years after George’s succession, WW2 broke out and Queen (consort) Elizabeth proved to be of a stalwart disposition. She supported her husband tirelessly and helped him as he struggled with his stammer. Buckingham palace was bombed 9 times but she still stayed put, she had a ready smile (unlike her daughter Elizabeth 2nd.) and was adored for her common touch with the people. While surveying the damage she famously said: "I'm glad we have been bombed; I feel I can look the East End in the face."

    She had resisted calls for herself and her two teen-age daughters, Elizabeth and Margaret, to flee London for the safety of North America.

    "The children will not leave unless I do," various sources have reported her as saying. "I shall not leave unless their father does, and the king will not leave the country in any circumstances whatever."

    The royal standard flew defiantly over the palace throughout the war, and the Queen Mother learned how to shoot a revolver, practising her aim in the palace gardens.

    The Queen Mother toured the country regularly, sharing in its woes, visiting badly damaged hospitals and factories, and keeping up the morale of the troops.

    After the war, in 1952, her husband died, and as she was only a Queen by marriage, the title went to the next in line to her late husband, the eldest child being being a daughter, also named Elizabeth. She, as a widow then retained her title of queen, but with the rider “Queen Mother”. Her daughter then became Elizabeth the 2nd, note that this was second to the Elizabeth who was around in Tudor times, you don't get a number if you are only a monarch by marriage!

    The Queen Mum was dearly loved because she took on the role of a Queen despite never having even remotely being prepared for it. She loved her gin, her music, her country. She had a way with her that made people feel as though she was only interested in them and was also extraordinarily patriotic. Elderly people remember when she was Queen of England – hell, I can remember it! – and somehow managed to rise above the shenannigans that we now see as normal amongst the Royals.

    Englishman.

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Hard to imagine that the dear lady is actually the most savage "reptile" on the planet.
    Leader, uncontested, of all the reptilians!!

    Sorry if you thought i was being disrespectful there E man.
    I think she was a great human being.

  • Francois
    Francois

    Thanks. That was a very well done little essay about the Queen Mum. I 'preciate your thoughtfullness in putting it up for us.

    Frank

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    The Queen Mom has been an icon for decades and I for one loved her dearly. She made England a land to love and admire. She will be dearly missed by the world and I dare say her funeral shall be the most eleborate of all time. God Save the Queen!!

  • LB
    LB

    I had never given royalty much thought until Princess Di(or Lady Di)came along. The entire affair captured most of America's attention and heart. She appeared to use her posistion for good.

    I recall my parents discussing the Queen Mother. They had good things to say about her. But I wasn't paying attention.

    So will Charles ever get a shot? Or is he going to be bypassed? Does the death of the Queen Mother make a difference in regards to this?


    Never Squat With Yer Spurs On

  • Marilyn
    Marilyn

    Englishman, The Queen mum had a lot of style. It's hard to imagine she would have offended anyone in her long life. She is one person who has left the world a better place for her kindness and graciousness. I loved that recent moment - probably last year, when she was attending some Royal function and she thought the person next to her had taken her glass to which she replied (on camera no less): "Hey that's my drink!" We out here in the colonies thought it was priceless!

    Marilyn

  • Preston
    Preston

    Hi Englishman, and thank you for posting that information about her. I had the radio turned on in my car today, and that's when I heard that she passed away. Interestingly, after it happened I wondered to myself if you would post anything about her life on the JW.com board.

    BTW, Isn't it true that King George VI was related to Queen Victoria? In fact, I think all the major players in Europe during WWI were related to her. Please verify. Thanx!

    Preston.

  • Princess
    Princess

    Thanks Eman, that was a great post. Please clarify why she was given the title Queen, if only as a consort but Philip is still a Prince and not a King. Can't get all these royal titles straight here.

    Except mine of course!

    Princess

  • SYN
    SYN

    I watched the Sky News special on her last night, and it was very interesting. I think the fact that she stayed at Buckingham Palace (and that it got bombed) when she could have high-tailed it for some obscure Scottish Castle is a sign of bravery, and it probably helped Britain to get through the War. It's a pity that they glossed over the Diana Assasination, barely even mentioning it, because I think that was an important part of her life.


    [SYN], UADA - Unseen Apostate Directorate of Africa - For Great Justice!

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Princess,

    A King is always rated as higher than a Queen, so you can't have a King consort, that is to say a King by marriage. He has a title too, but it does not contain the word "King". You only get a Queen by marriage such as the Queen Mother became. Our present Queen is Queen by birthright, her father was George 6, her grandfather was George 5, her great grandfather was Edward 7 who was the son of Queen Victoria.

    Our present Queens husband is Prince Philip, who, as the Queens husband also gets the title Duke of Edinburgh.

    You have to remember that the line of succession has always gone to the eldest son of the reigning monarch. If there are no sons then it goes to the eldest daughter. Consequently if a monarch has a daughter who is next in line to the throne, that daughter will lose her place in line if the monarch then has a son. The eldest daughter loses out to her kid brother.

    The eldest son of the monarch always gets the title "Prince of Wales" until he takes over the throne. The eldest son is Prince Charles and he will automatically become King when his mother dies. This is why his prospective wife is such an issue, because as consort, she will become a Queen. As such, her previous life becomes a source of fascination and speculation, just as it did for Diana. Not only that, if it were to be discovered that the Queen had become pregnant by someone other than her husband, it is theoretically possible that the child would one day ascend the throne. If the real daddy then spilled the beans all hell would break out!

    Re the line of succession, ie, who's turn is it to be monarch, here is the order at the moment:

    1. HRH The Prince Charles, The Prince of Wales (1948)
    2. HRH Prince William of Wales, eldest son of The Prince Charles (1982)
    3. HRH Prince Henry of Wales, younger son of The Prince Charles (1984)
    4. HRH The Prince Andrew, The Duke of York, second son of HM Queen Elizabeth II (1960)
    5. HRH Princess Beatrice of York, elder daughter of The Prince Andrew (1988)
    6. HRH Princess Eugenie of York, younger daughter of The Prince Andrew (1990)
    7. HRH The Prince Edward, youngest son of HM Queen Elizabeth II (1964)
    8. HRH The Princess Anne, The Princess Royal, only daughter of HM Queen Elizabeth II (1950)
    9. Peter Phillips, son of The Princess Anne (1977)
    10. Zara Phillips, daughter of The Princess Anne (1981)
    11. David Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley, son of The Princess Margaret (1961)
    12. The Honorable Charles Patrick Inigo Armstrong Jones (1999)
    13. Lady Sarah Chatto, daughter of The Princess Margaret (1964)
    14. Samuel Chatto (1996)
    15. Arthur David Nathaniel Chatto (1999)
    16. HRH Prince Richard, The (2nd) Duke of Gloucester, surviving son of HRH The Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester, who was the 3rd son of HM King George V (1944)
    17. Alexander Windsor, Earl of Ulster (1974)
    18. Lady Davina Windsor (1977)
    19. Lady Rose Windsor (1980)
    20. HRH Prince Edward, Duke of Kent (1935)

    Hope that was useful!

    Englishman

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