Red: Pokeman? Harry Potter? There are stories of these as well? I've not heard that! Do tell ...
marion_nett
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Demonised Smurf Doll
by CrazyArms inis anyone out there familiar with the now almost legendery jw "true" story about the demon possessed smurf doll that got up and stormed out of the watchtower study screaming "that's a load of crap" in response to an answer to a question being given by a brother concerning the final destruction of satan?
i'm also interested to learn of any similar incidences.
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What is the WT afraid of???????????????????
by Zep inok, since it was so easy to get on here i'm assuming that this place is also over run by wts critics...but anyway!.
i've read a plenty of wt mags and got sucked in enough by the whole thing to go to a few meetings and do a bible study( which i wouldn't really call a study, since we just read one of their books).i soon broke of the whole thing and didn't even read another mag for about 6 years...6 months ago i wandered into h20 out of curiosity and ended up reading up on the arguments against the wts.. i have a simple question, and its probably very naive to ask this...but why is wts so afraid of debate?...there are plenty of sites arguing against the wts...but none for, apart the official site which doesn't address the issues raised by so called "apostates" anyway.. if the wt has the the truth why dont they just refute the the arguments against them instead of shutting up shop and labelling anyone who questions them an "apostate?
" or from satan or something.. i'm really beginning to think that all this wt business is just waste of time, that if i were to go to kh and ask questions that i have, i'm more likely to be labelled a trouble making agent of satan rather than be taken at face value as someone with serious questions.
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PS to Zep: Sorry about the typo in your name.
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What is the WT afraid of???????????????????
by Zep inok, since it was so easy to get on here i'm assuming that this place is also over run by wts critics...but anyway!.
i've read a plenty of wt mags and got sucked in enough by the whole thing to go to a few meetings and do a bible study( which i wouldn't really call a study, since we just read one of their books).i soon broke of the whole thing and didn't even read another mag for about 6 years...6 months ago i wandered into h20 out of curiosity and ended up reading up on the arguments against the wts.. i have a simple question, and its probably very naive to ask this...but why is wts so afraid of debate?...there are plenty of sites arguing against the wts...but none for, apart the official site which doesn't address the issues raised by so called "apostates" anyway.. if the wt has the the truth why dont they just refute the the arguments against them instead of shutting up shop and labelling anyone who questions them an "apostate?
" or from satan or something.. i'm really beginning to think that all this wt business is just waste of time, that if i were to go to kh and ask questions that i have, i'm more likely to be labelled a trouble making agent of satan rather than be taken at face value as someone with serious questions.
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marion_nett
"One of the lessons in history is that Nothing is often a good thing to do and a clever thing to say." Ariel and Will Durant
Zeb:
The Watchtower Society has always had a "No Debate" policy - not just with "apostates." They have stated their position on doctrinal matters in their literature.
As a Bible student or interested person, if you have questions, they'll be happy to answer them.
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Conscience Issues?
by Andyman inok frenchy, you asked for it you got it!.
my pet issue is the conscience thing.
just whos' conscience are they talking about when they us this phrase "it's a conscience issue"?.
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I have notebooks full of these things! LOL
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Conscience Issues?
by Andyman inok frenchy, you asked for it you got it!.
my pet issue is the conscience thing.
just whos' conscience are they talking about when they us this phrase "it's a conscience issue"?.
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Conscience is the inner voice that tells us when someone is looking ... Henry Louis Mencken
(How's that, Waiting? I'm a "quote-freak" too ...lol)
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by Frenchy inthe views expressed here are my own and i state them as such.
perhaps some will agree with me, for a certainty others will not.
i invite comment and discussion regardless of your viewpoint.
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marion_nett
Frenchy - You are a very kind, reasonable person. I have to admit the "what-ifs" have crossed my mind regarding my son (i.e., what if he should die in an accident - who would do the funeral). He has many friends who would attend, and, yes, it would look very bad. I am thinking someone might do a generic funeral talk - you know, about the resurrection and paradise, etc. (Not very personal or satisfying, but better than refusing altogether!) I would think that would be a conscience thing ... no?
Anyway, good for you for being there for her!
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I Write Some Poetry Myself
by marion_nett ini've enjoyed frenchy's poems so much, i thought since this forum seems to have hit a lull, i might share one that i wrote several years ago when my 17 year old son left home (and the "truth") - and broke my heart.. he is a very bright and introspective young man, a poet heavily into dylan, lennon, and all those anti-establishment heroes of oddly enough my generation.
minstrel song.
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I've enjoyed Frenchy's poems so much, I thought since this Forum seems to have hit a lull, I might share one that I wrote several years ago when my 17 year old son left home (and the "Truth") - and broke my heart.
He is a very bright and introspective young man, a “poet” heavily into Dylan, Lennon, and all those anti-establishment heroes of – oddly enough – MY generation.
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Minstrel Song
Where are you now, O Minstrel Son -
Child lost in the Wisdom of Youth?
Is there yet a hint of your presence
Still lingering within that Dylan-esque spirit?Poet, Philosopher, Tunesmith -
Born a generation too late;
Reincarnate 60’s child -
A “rock” and an “island.”Cuddle with me again just once -
Babble meaningless childwords in my ear;
Savor the joys of an innocent babe a while longer
Before you go off to slay Life’s Dragons -(They will await you -
They know you are coming.)Whisper to me once again the song of a firstborn’s love before you go;
Remember kindly the yesterdays of your youth,
They too had meaning -
Your poet’s heart is shaped of those who have touched you
Throughout your journey to this unknown destination.The love of a firstborn I have reserved for you alone;
Only you can lay claim to it.
Never doubt its power;
It can overcome all obstacles, however great they may be.
It cannot be quenched even midst the ravages of fire and drought
It awaits you - knowing your growth will come full circle.Then your minstrel song will be complete.
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As a footnote, I might add that he has matured considerably and now, some 6 years later, we see him often and have fallen into a very comfortable relationship. He is publishing a poetry magazine in a college town about 100 miles from here, is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and has developed into a very fine young man.
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The "routine", The failure
by Pathofthorns inis it possible to do all that is required as a witness?
if one were to put down on paper all that is required to carry out, both with secular work and a good spiritual routine, is it even possible to do all that one is "supposed" to do?.
a basic routine includes:.
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Katchoo -
I can relate to what you said earlier about it "never being good enough." I learned the Truth at 18 and took to it like gangbusters - passing on all my college plans to pioneer. So, it wasn't till I hit 30 or so that I realized maybe I regretted passing on the college in my haste. I still crave it, but at 50 haven't either the time or money. It's not for career - just personal satisfaction. I don't regret the pioneer years. I was a very shy person and the Truth and pioneering pulled me out of that, and I have some wonderful memories. We have an elder in our cong. who is about my age, and actually got his college education right out of high school - while pioneering. Said it wasn't without its share of disapproving stares and comments, but he did it anyway. He's one of our most approachable, open-minded elders. Maybe because he was somewhat of a maverick in his youth ... Anyway, I can relate. -
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A Request
by Friend inlately i have spent some time responding to various subjects on this forum.
at this time it seems a bit necessary that i address something about myself in the hopes that it will clear up some misunderstandings.
first of all, i am not a defender of the watch tower bible & tract society.
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P.S. Don't get me wrong, folks. The final count is not in (in my book) on this blood matter. And I also have issues regarding child baptism (and consequent shunning when they manifest the "foolishness of youth" ...), birthdays (not that I care personally, especially as the years tick by!), and a few other matters; however, I am not interested in condemning or turning my back on the Organization that taught me about Jehovah God in the first place, and of his Kingdom, as well as the high moral standards (so lacking in the world today) I've learned as on of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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A Request
by Friend inlately i have spent some time responding to various subjects on this forum.
at this time it seems a bit necessary that i address something about myself in the hopes that it will clear up some misunderstandings.
first of all, i am not a defender of the watch tower bible & tract society.
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. For instance, after Jesus’ resurrection but prior to his ascension his followers still had misconceptions about God’s Kingdom. (See Acts 1:6-8) Interestingly Jesus did not correct them right away. In fact, we are not sure just how soon thereafter that those disciples fully realized the heavenly aspect of that kingdom and how much in error their thinking was. So, here is the question, what were those Christians teaching? Was it completely accurate? Was it in complete agreement with what Jesus taught as the good news? Did it lead people to Christ?
Interesting ... So, in other words, Jesus's appointed apostles and disciples also actually manifested this same "blinking light", as many call it, ...??
Does this mean, then, that they are guilty of the same "crime" the Watchtower Society is being so maligned for by many on this board?
(I'll duck now ...)