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"I thought he'd trust in Jehovah and the angels."
Yea ummmm no.... That is funny tho....
Blind_Of_Lies
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Can A known Apostate enter A KH .
by jam inlets say the people in my area know that i am a. apostate.
i walk in, sit and i behave.
after the meeting.
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Can A known Apostate enter A KH .
by jam inlets say the people in my area know that i am a. apostate.
i walk in, sit and i behave.
after the meeting.
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Blind_Of_Lies
It was about 5 years ago now, maybe longer but the city we went to convention withheld one every weekend for a month back to back during the summer months. The convention the week before ours there was a bomb threat made so they had heightened security. Whatever that’s worth. Anyway, one of the main guys who helped organize these wonderful events also happened to be my great uncle. He enlisted my brothers and I as being attendants during a special talk. The guy was from HQ, my memory fails but he could have been a member of the GB. Anyway, the guy arrived to the assembly hall minutes before it started he rolled up in an SUV jumped out and went in the back doors and straight to the stage then straight out after it was over. I/we had no idea who or what he was at the time our “mission” was to hold the emergency exit doors open so he could come in and get out quickly. We couldn’t hear his talk or into or anything and we found out after the fact from the guy we knew who was the planner that at least one of the guys traveling with him was armed. Apparently they positioned themselves on all 4 corners of the square stage that sat in the middle of a sports arena.
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Do You Think Writing My Daughter is a Good Idea?
by mrquik ini left several years ago & have one daughter still in.
she's 32 & married to a nonbeliever.
after i got labeled as an apostate, she cut off all communication.
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Blind_Of_Lies
I would suggest using a little bit of psychology this adventure will be a negotiation, the two of you will probably not formally sit down and lay out the rules of any reconciliation but each encounter, be it by letter or in person will be a very complex dance.
I would suggest finding common ground and perhaps even an ally in your Son In Law. If he is an unbeliever then he knows how ridiculous the whole thing is. I would reach out to him privately. Ask if you can meet him somewhere and buy him beer or lunch, something light. If the two of you have bad blood, wash clean of it right then and there. Let him know that you have always loved your daughter and her family and tell him you are not trying to stop her from doing anything BUT you want to know your grandchildren and your daughter. Ask him how he thinks she would react to you making contact. It could be that she is ready for this to happen herself but does not know how or is not willing to make the first move. It could be that he knows a nice card through the mail would be more effective than a in person visit. On the other hand she may need an in person visit and a card could shut her down further. If he says its not a good time, respect that but give him your phone number and email address so he can reach out when a good time comes along. It could be that he could support or urge your daughter to accept contact with you. Keep in mind that Sisters are instructed to subject to their husbands. We wouldn’t want him to force her to do anything but his opinion will weigh heavy in the situation.
I would also push to either meet your grandkids at a different time than the initial visit and I would avoid arriving with a bunch of gifts for the kids without asking permission first. While im sure you will enjoy spoiling them first, you don’t want mom to think you are trying to win her kids over with gifts.
Whatever you do... leave the WTBTS and talking about it OUT of the conversation. Prove to her you are not an apostate waiting to drag her out of the cult and to her death... remember thats what she currently thinks.
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How to Record a Judicial Meeting
by 00DAD inintroduction: this subject came up on another thread and seemed important enough to justify its own thread:.
judicial hearing procedure, chapter 7. recording devices.
"recording devices should not be allowed.
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Blind_Of_Lies
Actually, if it wouldn’t be a complete breach of privacy for those unfortunate souls who get discussed behind their backs during elder meetings I would have done it myself. Those little digital recorders can be setup to only record when there is sounds in the room so theoretically one could be on standby sitting on top of a bookshelf for several weeks without needing any attention… always listening
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How to Record a Judicial Meeting
by 00DAD inintroduction: this subject came up on another thread and seemed important enough to justify its own thread:.
judicial hearing procedure, chapter 7. recording devices.
"recording devices should not be allowed.
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Blind_Of_Lies
I have something similar to the voice recorder I linked too above. Every JW related conversation I have either on the phone or in person is recorded. I have already had to hit the recordings twice with “he said/she said” drama between family members. They seem inflamed with anger because the elders cannot touch me. If you simply quit going to meeting and stop calling yourself a JW you can avoid all kinds of elder drama.
But a small recorder like that is very hand and cheap. Mine has a built in microphone and the SD card will hold several hours of nonstop recordings and the batteries last for hours. I actually have two of them, one by the phone at home and one that stays in the car in case of ambush.
If you were planning on agreeing to a JC it would be very easy for a man to slip this device into his jacket pocket it would pickup everything else as well. A woman could easily leave put it in her purse and then leave the purse in the room while the 3 of them had private time to conspire.
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Sex, the Disabled and the Terminally Single
by bigmouth input aside your religious or moral standards if you can for a moment and give me your viewpoint on this......... generally, the 'beautiful people' pair off with other 'beautiful people' in a sexual union for however long, and the average lookers meet other average lookers and so on down the line until you come to.......................those who don't appeal to the opposite sex due to appearance, injury, illness or mental capacity.. can, or should, these people be given access to those in the sex trade for 'relief' without cause for fear or stigmatising ?
or is it a case of "that's too bad" (meaning you're committing fornication and that cannot be sanctioned in any way)?.
have you ever needed to counsel a person (or their parents) on this ?
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Carrying a gun out in service
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Blind_Of_Lies
I thought JW's were in a pacifist religion, no violence, don't give back in kind etc. The DVD giving their history has moving testimony from an elderly JW who was a boy in the '30's or '40's telling how he had endured persections and beatings without retaliating.
I just do not understand how carrying firearms, let alone using them, could not be the rankest and most blatant hypocrisy.
JW’s are peaceful but not pacifists. We have a right to defend ourselves against harm as does any living person. Don’t think for a second that people who chose to legally carry a gun do not take that seriously. As a witness I knew that if I did shoot someone I would not only have to defend myself in a court of law but also against a room of elders.
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Question for elders about MEMORIAL EMBLEMS...
by Alfred inwhat is done with the bread and the wine after the conclusion of the memorial?.
is it normally tossed in the trash and poured down the drain?.
if so, wouldn't that be simbolic of throwing jesus' body in the trash and pouring his blood into the sewer?.
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Blind_Of_Lies
It was tradition at our hall to have a small gathering of friends after the memorial and the whine was put to good use. That freakin blew my mind. They take extra care not to have the ceremony until after sundown but then they go full cannibals on the representation of the Zombie Jew’s flesh and blood!
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Sex, the Disabled and the Terminally Single
by bigmouth input aside your religious or moral standards if you can for a moment and give me your viewpoint on this......... generally, the 'beautiful people' pair off with other 'beautiful people' in a sexual union for however long, and the average lookers meet other average lookers and so on down the line until you come to.......................those who don't appeal to the opposite sex due to appearance, injury, illness or mental capacity.. can, or should, these people be given access to those in the sex trade for 'relief' without cause for fear or stigmatising ?
or is it a case of "that's too bad" (meaning you're committing fornication and that cannot be sanctioned in any way)?.
have you ever needed to counsel a person (or their parents) on this ?
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Blind_Of_Lies
I think it was on that Nat. Geo. show Taboo... either that or Weird Sex or something along those lines.
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June 15, 2012 described events that had not happened yet.
by discreetslave insomeone on a facebook group pointed out how the june 15 2012 study wt commented on publishers pioneering this month.
this magazine was written before march.. .
page 23 .
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Blind_Of_Lies
But alas… the minimum hours thing dropped… is it more realistic now or just some raw meat to entice the Dubs?