Starting to have more conversations with some heavies.. voicing my concerns about russel, Rutherford, policies, doctrines, I'm surprised what I'm getting away with I think leadership has its tail between it's legs afraid of more lawsuits!
Lied2NoMore
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watchtower leadership getting weaker
by edmond dantes inis it my imagination or does the watchtower need a strong individual leader to come forward and take control they seem to be losing it big time.. i have just started re reading thirty years a slave of the watchtower and it seems to me that compared with judge rutherford and knorr there is just no strong personal driving force.
when rutherford took control he was young compared with todays leaders and so was knorr but todays team seem very lack lustre and undynamic..
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Would You Listen To A Prayer From A JW And Say Amen If They Said A Prayer In Your Presence?
by minimus inmy mom has had visits from various jws and they have asked her if they could say a prayer before they left.
i respectfully listened to the prayers while i was visiting and might silently say amen if i felt the prayer was appropriate for my mom.. i'm just curious, how would you handle this type of situation?.
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Lied2NoMore
Stopped bowing my head and saying amen almost a year ago. Just had DC. never clapped once never opened a bible once never sang one word of any song. Got CO this week gonna continue same routine! Starting to have more conversations with some heavies.. voicing my concerns about russel, Rutherford, policies, doctrines, I'm surprised what I'm getting away with I think leadership has its tail between it's legs afraid of more lawsuits!
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Are you TRAPPED by your believing mate into a hellish life of "pretend"?
by Terry inthe scene is familiar.. a jehovah's witness family with one member who has awakened from the lie.. the split comes down to an interesting wrong terminology:.
unbelieving mate vs believing mate.. .
the context of the entire family is as a jehovah's witness family.. damage has already been done.
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Lied2NoMore
That movie is one oldie I never saw but my parents certainly did. Now I want to watch it !!
NO PRISONERS !
famous scene from one of the best movies ever made.
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Are you TRAPPED by your believing mate into a hellish life of "pretend"?
by Terry inthe scene is familiar.. a jehovah's witness family with one member who has awakened from the lie.. the split comes down to an interesting wrong terminology:.
unbelieving mate vs believing mate.. .
the context of the entire family is as a jehovah's witness family.. damage has already been done.
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Lied2NoMore
I relate to this I'm stuck in the situation for now and have advanced to the stage already that tells me to fight for my rights and bow to no-one! My size and mental demeanor will make an elders tie an easy target to whip him around and throw him to the ground if they want to go toe to toe with me. I'm to the point where I couldn't care less if I was DF'd or not. By the way the throw down will happen without a second witness so no worries. Great post!
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Read first 7 chapters of "combatting cult mind control" today
by Lied2NoMore inhard to believe this book wasn't written by an ex-jw.
parallels are astounding!
i'm anxious to read if there are suggestions to help open minds of my wife and child.
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Hard to believe this book wasn't written by an ex-JW. Parallels are astounding! I'm anxious to read if there are suggestions to help open minds of my wife and child. For now I exist with a fully awake mind but any criticism of Dub-cult reinforces their resolve to stay committed. And to top off got to suffer thru the DC this week. I'm gonna have to make lots of bathroom trips and bring a flask, take naps, and walk off back pain and leg cramps! Anyone interested in a recording of DC ? Ha!
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Any comments from JW's about the Conti Case & Judgement?
by UnConfused ini'm curious if anyone has had any conversations with active jw's about this?
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Lied2NoMore
If I believed the elders really had any control over me this would concern me but don't believe they do. I'm ready for battle if they wanna go toe to toe either verbally or physically
Lied2 - I can't imagine you aren't being turned into the elders for questioning bringing up such subjects! Hang in there
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Any comments from JW's about the Conti Case & Judgement?
by UnConfused ini'm curious if anyone has had any conversations with active jw's about this?
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Mention of the millions to be paid out and how their donations go to support defending pedofiles didn't sit well with them
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Any comments from JW's about the Conti Case & Judgement?
by UnConfused ini'm curious if anyone has had any conversations with active jw's about this?
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Yup I brought it up at a BBQ one night boy did that make a stink my wife had to be taken home by her friend in the midst of it and discussion lasted a good 3 hours. Brought up the false dating of russell and rutherfords blunders threw in some Franz just for good measure. I had to assure the group I wasn't leaving to calm their concern. Boy faking it is such a drag!
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the expression "JDUB"
by wannaexit ini've heard the expression jdub coming out of the mouths of a couple of witnesses.
does it mean they know stuff about this organization and could possible be visiting sites such as jwd?.
this is leading me to believe that there are a lot more witnesses that have realized that their religion is a scam..
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Lied2NoMore
I coined my own way to ID them years ago that I haven't heard...
Ho-bee Wee-Bee.... some get it, some need to be told what I mean when I say it
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It took me a long time to write this...i'm staying.
by MsGrowingGirl20 init took me a long time to write this....i'm being brutally honest...i am still a reg pioneer...three sundays ago,i was praying and asking god for a sign or something because i was so confused...i told him exactly what i needed to see for me to believe.i was feeling terrible--crying and feeling sick because i was so confused.ten minutes after, i walked into the kingdom hall and to my surprise--my prayer was answered!
i soooo wasn't expecting it, even though i prayed.
so this is where almighty god wants me to be,ii've reasoned.
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Lied2NoMore
I think I know what the "sign" may have been. She was asked to do a demo or ***gasp*** share in a part in the district convention. This makes soooo much sense because it's no secret reg pios get asked all the time to handle special "priveledges" I bet I nailed it