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  Is claiming your baptism null and void an exit plan?

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  i have read some of you talking about baptism not being a legaly binding contract as, for most it was undertaken as a minor.

  has anyone successfuly nulled their baptism and exited free of consequence?.

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  Lied2NoMore

  When i sat with 2 elders 2 weeks ago I mentioned that I was NOT recommended for baptism back when I was 16 by last elder to do questions with me.

  I said I did NOT answer YES to two baptism questions because during talk I realized I had not said a prayer of dedication.

  I said I was afraid and humiliated and too scared to step out of line and not go get dunked so I did.

  All true events = my baptism is null and void,,,,elder manual says elders CANNOT override...it is between God and me.

  I just don't know if I should write a letter to make it official, I don't want that to lead to sanctioned shunning by elder body.
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  I like all the discussion. Isn't it nice to have open and free dialogue without fear of WT labeling any of us apostate and DF-ing us?

  That said, until I get this book in hand and read it, for sure it can be said book was written to sensationalize gory details of Rome. It also can be said author did NOT eyewitness the events he wrote about. So there must be references. As said, why is WT using a book like this when they would condemn anyone who went to see "Gladiator" or "Passion of the Christ" or even asking Ridley Scott or Mel Gibson to be a credible source of historical accuracy to be used in WT publication?

  They made a statement of fact in paragraph 16 and used a gory novel to support the statement of fact. There has to be some reference to support statement used. I will dig until I find the answer but WT was stupid to grab a snippet like that to use in a study article. Or they just think no one will question anything they say or do.
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Once I have the actual book in hand...if it is factual and based on research there will be references from his research listed in the book. If no refrences this needs its own topic heading on jwfacts dot com / jwsurvey dot com...etc. I volunteer to write the article if they will post it
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Lied2NoMore

  @2+2=5..I'm sure he was notified by elders about my police report I made for their harassment...I think he was trying to analyze me with all his qualifications he has earned filling out monthly time slips...
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Lied2NoMore

  plus the webseller i ordered the book from last night calls the book "historical fiction" im going to keep the study WT from yesterday neatly tucked into the book for future reference
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Lied2NoMore

  If you Wiki Daniel P Mannix you will read how deeply military he and his family was. How he was a sideshow circus performer a sword swallowed, NOTHING about him being a bible researcher, historian, professor, or ANY type of authority on biblical events.

  Why does GB need commentary from this guy about bible history? Don't they know all? If I went out and read outside literature and used commentary to refute WT teachings it would mean DF for me
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Lied2NoMore

  It is definitely FICTION I saw the references to non-fiction but checked and re-checked the book is INDEED FICTION!!
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Lied2NoMore

  just completed the order...............gonna use this one in a big way
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Lied2NoMore

  so far so good............but CO was non-stop eye fucking me while he was on stage today
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  Lied2NoMore

  http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?isbn=0583121349

  IM GONNA ORDER IT