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  Tech49 visits Bethel: Part 1-Patterson

  by Tech49 in

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  i thought that it was a good time to post my experience about visiting new york last spring.

  enough time has passed that no one can put my experiences together with any kind of timeline..... so our family discussed the trip to the holy land (ny bethel), as none of us had ever been.

  anyone who is anyone knows that you aren't really a good jw christian until you visit bethel!

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  Never been there...never will...but I wonder...what if you just bolted and went in somewhere you weren't allowed? Would you be tackled? Arrested? If you asked why you aren't allowed somewhere what is their response? I would ask what is it they are hiding that you can't see? Would it stumble someone to see what it is that they are not allowing many to see?

  I think if I had ever gone even when brainwashed, I would be livid that they live in such plush surroundings and so many of the followers live in poverty volunteering for them to live like lords and kings....
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  When and what book did the Great Crowd go from heaven to earth.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. beliefs

  i think in the finish mystery rutherford (actually franz) still wrote the great crowd was in heaven.

  so when and what books did the switch take place and the great crowd become on earth???

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  The heavens closed its doors in 1935 to the WT followers because of their errant, ungodly false etchings. Makes sense WT followers felt no heavenly hope after 1935, the teachings were outlandish and as the WT leader, Rutherford was viewed as an arrogant asshole and any who followed him were rejected from entering the heavenly realm. Rutherford had to deal with this sudden lost hope of the WT masses and invent a two class hope so faithful followers wouldn't leave him and go elsewhere. Now the world can see from clear hindsight Rutherfords teachings and beliefs have all been abandoned by the WT because they weren't true then and embarrassing for the WT to have in its history now. But now they are diverting and changing with a blinding pace all their false doctrines.
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  A mistake in fading 4 months ago is coming back to haunt me... HELP!!

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  so today, two elders from a congregation i was in two years ago came by the house.

  they said they wanted to talk to me about things that they have heard, and that they want to talk to me very quickly, as soon as possible.

  perhaps before this week ends.. i don't know what to do!!

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  Tell them your attorney isn't available on such short notice.
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  How men become homosexuals...

  by Calebs Airplane in

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  2. experiences

  finally, i've found the reason why some men become homosexuals.. the 1976 book "your youth: getting the best of it" explains it here in great detail.... .

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  I had a good friend in our hall in my early teens that I used to hang around with a ton and my brain dead JW mother tried to lessen our association by saying we will become gay if we hang around too much. When my friends fiery black mother heard that she called my mom and verbally undressed her and I was loving it the whole time. Really made my mother who was abusive tuck her tail in for a while. She got mad at me for telling my friend what she said.
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  Since leaving the truth, do you celebrate holidays, and does your participation in such bring you happiness?

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

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  i ask this respectfully, and do so after watching a favorite show of mine's season opener which had a new years storyline.

  hollywood tends to make movies and television show episodes centered around holiday themes appear warm and blissful.

  while i'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, i can't deny my curiosity about ex-jws that do celebrate.

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  I always craved to do holidays when I was young and birthdays too. Now that I'm awake to the WT's cult operation I again crave to do holidays but my ignorant circle of JW family and friends prevent me. Stupid cult.
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  Is everyone required to be enrolled in the theocratic ministry school?

  by hoser in

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  can a publisher "drop out" and still be in good standing?.

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  I used to give awesome talks...at least that was what I was told...but I never will again...I used to write talks up in 5 mins for the boys or girls....I still could in perfect JW lingo and indoctrinated nonsense. ...but my family won't trust me to do so lest I slip something in..."not WT approved" so I gladly sit unbothered by the drivel...
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  Lied2NoMore

  I made the same mistake at one time in my life to go back to the mythical "true religion"...I went back full bore and the reason? Lack of knowledge...not knowing TTATT...I was fooled into believing it as truth because I really wasn't immersed into it originally. Now I know way too much about it and I'm finding those I talk to still in have a wonderful way of glossing over the monumental signs that the truth ain't the truth.
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  OPEN CHALLENGE TO GB / FDS or anyone in the BORG

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i openly challenge any annointed ones to use the holy spirit to come find this ms still considered in good standing in my congregation, and remove me for waking up to your bs and cultish ways.

  i no longer believe in your doctrine, history, or the claim you are guided by holy spirit.

  prove me wrong and come get me!!.

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  Well now I know why the GB still haven't come to get me...too busy re-doctrinizing and printing new bibles and all that important stuff...and they have kept themselves and three of their goon elders from getting the crap kicked out of them...
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  What Was Your First Experience In Exposing Yourself To "Apostasy"?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  as a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.

  i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.

  i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.

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  Very very first was back in mid 80's people would stand outside convention site with signs that had a 800 phone number to call..it was "answers for JW's" a weekly recorded message. I called every week for a long time. Was out for about 10 years. But I allowed myself to get reindoctrinated and went back! Stupid move. What broke my mind control and got me here and reading coc and isocf and other books was a bout with tremendous grief over family death. Now I'm free for life.
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  So Why Do You Think They Needed This New Revision?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  are they simply trying to make their bible more readable, or do you think there is a more sinister motive?.

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  I also agree they have planned already for the henchmen to get used to new wording ....."brazen conduct" and use this as a means to DF anyone who like me tells elders to F off if they want to talk to me in the future or generally dismiss any efforts to council or correct someone...I have just been blowing them off since I woke up over two years ago