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  All JWs need to watch this great documentary...it may give them pause for thought.

  by deanxxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble.

  there are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion.

  on the other hand, jws love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.

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  It's a tricky one. I do understand as some have already said that showing JWs films about other cults could make them feel better about their own group.

  I think kjg123 made an important point. Showing them films about other cults that are very close to their own is probably more effective because, although we can see the similarities between scientology, JWs, FLDS, etc etc each of those groups view the other the same way: they are damned, we are saved because we have the truth - which is another similarity that they (all cults) fail to readily recognise.

  People in cults are great at spotting other cults...oh the irony.
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  All JWs need to watch this great documentary...it may give them pause for thought.

  by deanxxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble.

  there are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion.

  on the other hand, jws love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.

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  deanxxx

  "They will happily watch any docs on other cults and nod satisfactorily to themselves, self confirming that they have the 'truth'."

  Sadly, very true.
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  All JWs need to watch this great documentary...it may give them pause for thought.

  by deanxxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble.

  there are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion.

  on the other hand, jws love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.

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  deanxxx

  talespin: Spotlight is new, I think it's on putlocker but I got it from piratebay. Yeh CBC is great.
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  All JWs need to watch this great documentary...it may give them pause for thought.

  by deanxxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble.

  there are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion.

  on the other hand, jws love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.

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  deanxxx

  Haha...Just got to 1hr 10mins in. Lol, it's worth watching the film just to hear Jeffs destroy Bob Dylan.
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  All JWs need to watch this great documentary...it may give them pause for thought.

  by deanxxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble.

  there are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion.

  on the other hand, jws love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.

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  deanxxx

  I know how hard it is to awaken people still inside the cult bubble. There are many reasons for this, chief among them the unwillingness to read or watch anything critical of their religion. On the other hand, JWs love few things more than hearing bad stuff about other faith groups.

  With that in mind, maybe one 'tactic' could be to show JW family/friends documentaries like the recent 'Prophet's Prey' (2015) about the psychopathic, sexual predatory, paedophilic recidivist scumbag Warren Jeffs and the FLDS church. Just maybe, for a moment, they will look inwards and notice some uncomfortable similarities. After all, daring to think the unthinkable is what made me start asking questions.

  Anyway, if you haven't seen the film it's well worth a watch. It's sickening of course but also, in many ways quite familiar.

  The excellent movie 'Spotlight' could be worth a go too.
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  What made you turn atheist or agnostic?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.

  the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.

  have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.

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  For me, finding out the evolution/creation book which I keenly studied was full of problems, misquotes, bad science and outright lies. Researching 1975 was a eye opener too. Further study with greater objectivity meant I could no longer follow the bible let alone a religion. Also, some of the WT values conflicted with my liberal/left leaning values but it was loss of belief in god that really did it for me.
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  OK friends lets be honest, if a Nuclear Holocaust took place today how many of you would return to the KH?

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  speaking for my self, no way in hell.. this question to see if you really have been deprogramed,.

  do you 100% believe it is not the truth.. a fourth of the world hit by a nuclear attack..

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  Don't they believe that an all out nuclear war is pretty much guaranteed never to happen? I don't know how they arrived at that conclusion but I seem to remember them making that claim. While nuclear weapons exist, the probability of an all out nuclear war happening is greater than zero.
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  Is Stefan Molyneux a dangerous cult leader

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. current

  a guy on youtube who got popular spouting ideas on social and political issues, molyneux gained additional notoriety when he started encouraging people to cut off their natural families.

  some followers took his advice seriously, and mums crying about the consequences have gone to the media to tell their story.

  it's interesting how this resembles and also differs from jw shunning.

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  I had the misfortune of stumbling across him a few years ago on youtube. Took an instant dislike to him. Alarm bells went off. Total narcissist imo. I'm not surprised to hear what he's up to now. A massively odious creature.

  http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stefan_Molyneux
  
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  Child Sexual Abuse and Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Rules – Part 1 of Gumshoe’s Royal Commission Series

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  child sexual abuse and jehovahs witnesses rules part 1 of gumshoes royal commission series.

  this is a fairly lengthy article describing and examining the royal commission in australia.. the author ends the article with this:.

  in general, we see, from watchtower australia, how depriving a person of fellowship was seen as a severe punishment.

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  deanxxx

  Correct me if I'm wrong but the ARC has never suggested that the WT had a policy intentionally, proactively designed to harm children as the above article suggests. I'm no fan of 'the truth' but I am a big fan of truth. The truth about WT policy is damning enough without this kind of extrapolation. What are your thoughts?
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  Do most ex JW's go politically left?

  by Lightgrowsbrighter in

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  2. current

  i've found it interesting that- imho- most of the politically vocal ex-jw's at this website seem to lean left.

  i'm personally pretty centered- right on some issues, left on others, but overall have a pretty cynical view of all political/religious leaders.

  i find it somewhat ironic that people who leave such a dogmatic group like the witnesses become so politically dogmatic.

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  deanxxx

  A lefty before, during and after. Not far left, social dem/progressive with a dash of liberalism/libertarianism. Here in the UK, JWs seem to be left when it comes to economic inequality but in every other way they are very conservative, being to the right of the Tories imho.