Posts by Chariklo

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

Chariklo

Angharad, I have replied to your public rebuke with a private PM.

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

Chariklo

And you call ME mean-spirited after posts like the preceding one, snare?

With perception like that, it's clear that only those who see truth and have it in their hearts can perceive truth. My writing of uncomfortable truths, obscured successfully for some by subsequent verbiage, distracts no-one from it.

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

Chariklo

Thanks, snare! :)

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"Believers" vs. Atheists- Why this formulation?

by Band on the Run in

i believe christ is god.

when i left the witnesses i believed i had to be agnostic.

through a scheduling conflict, i studied the new testament in college.

Chariklo

Band, I totally agree with so much that you say. I don't think I've ever said to you, but when I first found this board about eighteen months ago, you were one of the people whose religious outlook seemed the closest to my own.

At that point, though, I didn't come out of the JW's, I was still too indoctrinated and in the iron grip of a manic control-freak sister. When I came back here properly in February this year, I still thought you were on my wavelength.

I don't understand some of what you've written. I don't hear voices either. I am through and through Catholic, though brought up Anglican. Mainstream Catholic too, not charismatic. But I allow for the difference in gift and perception that makes the variety of experience between different individuals of good will such a joy and not an impediment.

I think I am going to send you a PM, maybe not right this minute but a little later today.

The one thing that gave me a frisson of horror when I read it in your post was what you wrote about cutting and pasting from library books. Not physically and literally, I hope?! ;)

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wow

by Theredeemer in

jw
friends

it has been a long time since i have posted here, so, here it goes.

i have been back and forth for the last two years on whether or not to stay in this religion or not.

most of me wanted to stay for the same as many others, fear.

Chariklo

Hi, TheRedeemer,

congratulations in making it out, even though it sounds to me as if you have only managed to escape while under fire.

You say the news leaked out. I've discovered that some JW's can be very vicious, but I've also discovered that many, maybe most are not, and that even though many might stay in out of fear of losing friends and family, and fear of the unknown, because they think they are in the only safe place, still, not everyone will be as nasty as it may seem now.

Land if they are...well, then, they were never real friends in the first place, were they?

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

Chariklo

Yes, Botch, that was actually in my mind when I wrote, but these days, as I am writing in some threads, I'm al too aware that my words will be shredded, and I didn't think a reference to Christ's suffering would escape the barbs.

But, now that you mention it, yes, very much that. You'll find the same kind of thing not infrequently among the saints and mystics throughout the ages, viz Padre Pio's stigmata.

(They'll have a field day with that one!)

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

Chariklo

Oh, very well said, Botchtower!

And thank you, Benjie.

Truth will always out, and be seen by those who look.

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

Chariklo

Well. How wonderful is that! Palm tree knew all this when she was a witness. Are we supposed to be impressed?

Hang on, you knew it all when you were a witness? And you were still a witness?

The double-thinking among this group of evangelical atheists never ceases to amaze me. How much more like kicking someone when they're down can you get than all this stuff about Mother Teresa?

These are the same atheists that I watched on their own...private...we are not allowed to call a secret site a secret site, because its owner objects (see above) the same atheists and the same owner who complained bitterly about bullying (of atheists), who happily and at length called Shelby (AGuest) a bully, who will hound, in pack mode, individuals across this forum and can be watched as they do, and who have the perfect target in a dead nun, who devoted her life to poverty and the care of the poorest. They scorn and deride her and her work.

They jeer at her spiritual difficulties, and they can do that almost without challenge on this ex-Jehovah's Witness site, because, by and large, the Watchtower knows nothing of spirituality. They have never heard of the dark night of the soul and are unaware of the spiritual struggles that so many who were later pronounced saints underwent in their lifetimes.

I first became aware of these brave atheists when they were complaining about discrimination against them. Tell me, any who are reading here, have you seen any discrimination against atheists on this board? Do you see any believers attacking the right of atheists not to believe? Do you see anyone attacking them for lack of research or evidence for their atheist creed?

These courageous atheists strive valiantly against....what? They robustly attack before they have had any need to defend. Anyone with a belief or a faith has only got to turn up on a thread for them to start. There are the ones we know who'll come out with devilish logic and scientific proof. All of them will quote science (as if there were any quarrel between science and faith) and utter their mantra "Research! Evidence!"

Here in this thread they are in that seventh heaven whose existence they deny. They have the perfect target. Dead, unable to answer for herself, as if she ever would, Catholic, (always good for an extra kicking point) and currently attracting Internet-wide criticism. The fact that it is criticism from a very well-defined, largely atheist quarter can be conveniently overlooked, as they will overlook or suitably forget any "evidence" that doesn't suit their cause.

So here we have a self-proclaimed victim group (remember they were complaining about being discriminated against and calling AGuest a bully not many months ago) who now roam in packs across this forum, backing off occasionally when reproved but always regrouping and coming again from another angle. It's the same, few, predictable names, as always. I noticed a page or so back that they even turn on brand new forum members if they don't seem to be shaping up along atheist (for which read the particular brand of atheist found on this forum), pack-following lines.

So now they've homed in on Mother Teresa. We shouldn't be surprised, really. Who'll be next? Padre Pio? St Francis? Albert Schweitzer? The Queen?

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

Chariklo

Just like the monks, still thinking? Just like the sanctimonious people who happily and complacently condemn someone by saying "the bulk of that money never got to the dying. It went to the church."

Not, you note, "I have read that.." or " so and so says that..." Just a flat statement that it is so.

i presume you, personally, have proof?