Posts by Chariklo

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The Stone the Builders Rejected

by sabastious in

in the first post in this series i discussed the identity of the watchtower as per revelation 13. the second post dealt with the identity of the harlot and the scarlet beast.

this post will deal with the third element "the image of the beast", lets read revelation 13:15-17:.

the second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

The Stone the Builders Rejected

by sabastious in

in the first post in this series i discussed the identity of the watchtower as per revelation 13. the second post dealt with the identity of the harlot and the scarlet beast.

this post will deal with the third element "the image of the beast", lets read revelation 13:15-17:.

the second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

Chariklo

Brilliant, then, EP! Nor me! We agree!

So what was that about, then?

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The Stone the Builders Rejected

by sabastious in

in the first post in this series i discussed the identity of the watchtower as per revelation 13. the second post dealt with the identity of the harlot and the scarlet beast.

this post will deal with the third element "the image of the beast", lets read revelation 13:15-17:.

the second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

New here and just sick!

by msconcerned in

jw
friends

hello, i am new and i feel soooo wrong about being here.

anyway i am an m.s and have been disillusioned ever since the new understanding that came out in october.

i have read many things on this board that i have and also have not thought about.

Chariklo

Welcome, msconcerned! Just relax, and take it at your own pace.

You are among friends.

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The Stone the Builders Rejected

by sabastious in

in the first post in this series i discussed the identity of the watchtower as per revelation 13. the second post dealt with the identity of the harlot and the scarlet beast.

this post will deal with the third element "the image of the beast", lets read revelation 13:15-17:.

the second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

The Stone the Builders Rejected

by sabastious in

in the first post in this series i discussed the identity of the watchtower as per revelation 13. the second post dealt with the identity of the harlot and the scarlet beast.

this post will deal with the third element "the image of the beast", lets read revelation 13:15-17:.

the second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

" As an ex-christian Sab, Strypes, Shelby, Tammy, Loz and Char view people like Qcmbr and I with the same attitude that JWs view apostates. Once you have decided that somebody is an enemy of your god then of course it is permissible to slander them as you see fit and even to pray for their demise and eternal torment. It is such a relief to no longer have to defend the indefensible."

How can you possibly justify that statement? I can speak only for myself, but that is so utterly untrue of me that I am aghast. I don't even see you as an enemy of God...of course I don't! I don't wish any ill on anyone. I think that to pray "against" someone is an inherently wicked thing to do, and I have never done it, nor would ever do it? Why would I? To do so would be to condemn myself first.

He who points a finger at another points four fingers back at himself.

I might not like something someone does. That doesn't mean I wouldn't like that person. I would never, never, never pray for someone's death. That would be utterly wicked. What have you got against me, Cofty? I always considered you a friend, and Qcmbr too. That doesn't mean I agree with what you say always, but that's honest disagreement, not dislike, not a wish for death, and emphatically not judging you or anyone as an enemy of God.

So, it is NOT , as you say, permissible to slander you or anyone, as you say. As to whether or not I, or anyone, defends the indefensible, that very statement contains an inherent judgement, since to call something indefensible is to have judged it and condemned it.

As I say, I can only speak for myself, and that's what I've done. But you have grouped me in with others for whom I have a high regard and who I consider my friends, and I do not believe that any of what you say is applicable to them, either.

Finally, for you to say such utterly untrue things about me means that at some point I must have upset you. I haven't a clue what I could conceivably have done to cause such a reaction, but whatever it was, I am sorry to have done it. Why not PM me and tell me if that's so? I have nothing against you as a person, and sometimes you say things I agree with. Sometimes you don't, and on some of those occasions I've said so, because, after all, let's face it, this is a discussion forum!

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(For our non-JW guests) How to get rid of a JW using only two words.

by cedars in

jw
friends

if creepy contact lenses, facial piercings and people who talk insanely fast (and over-use the word "legit") are not your thing, then don't watch this video!.

however, if those things don't bother you, and you're curious about the "nuclear" way to eject jehovah's witnesses from one's doorstep, this video explains how this can be done swiftly and effectively.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvc1yoydby.

i can actually remember at least a couple of instances where someone revealed they were gay on the doorstep to my partner and i and this didn't get rid of us immediately, but it did force us onto the back foot.

Chariklo

That is hilarious! What a great guy!

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Review of Memorial Talk

by pixel in

this is my personal review of the memorial talk for this year.

take into account that this is a new "outline".

i put "outline" in quotes because.

Chariklo

"Whatever.. I suggest that the writing department at WTBTS presents the same views. Exchange one cult for another cult. How can anyone respond?

Whatever."

It does begin to sound as if you're in a sad place, Band.

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The Stone the Builders Rejected

by sabastious in

in the first post in this series i discussed the identity of the watchtower as per revelation 13. the second post dealt with the identity of the harlot and the scarlet beast.

this post will deal with the third element "the image of the beast", lets read revelation 13:15-17:.

the second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

Chariklo

"I utterly reject YHWH and your concept of Christ. Furthermore, I see no sign of any gifts of the Holy Spirit in posts here. Making stuff up in your mind is not the Holy Spirit."

Band, you utterly reject YWH? Wow. There's a bold statement! Good job God doesn't utterly reject you so easily! And yet you feel qualified to judge whether or not someone else receives gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Frankly, with temerity like that, you must be very sure of yourself! "I see no coherent theology here." Again, wow! Such incredible arrogance! You see yourself as intelligent and educated, but your words...and indeed coherence, or lack of it...frankly, and I'm sorry to say it, give you the lie.

But to reject God and the name by which he called himself, that's a very daring proclamation...rather you than me! Or were you crossing the fingers of your other hand behind your back while you wrote it?

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The Stone the Builders Rejected

by sabastious in

in the first post in this series i discussed the identity of the watchtower as per revelation 13. the second post dealt with the identity of the harlot and the scarlet beast.

this post will deal with the third element "the image of the beast", lets read revelation 13:15-17:.

the second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

Chariklo

You wrote "there is a reason." I was inviting you to share that reason.