Are you serious?
Did they say that we are in the great trib?
We all knew the day was coming.......but I figured they would keep that one in their pocket for awhile longer.
xjwsrock
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Zone visit Australia?
by stuckinarut2 inanyone else at this zone visit?.
more higher education bashing, with an embellished "experience"...... more quoting prov 4:18 out of context.. faithful and discreet slave definitions etc..... all the new "understandings" since 2012...... .
we are already in the great tribulation...?.
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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs
by Lady Lee inthw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
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xjwsrock
I know 6 or 7. Loner type people usually but one that I was close to had some mental issues that surfaced occasionally. He went through a crazy manic phase barely sleeping. He came back to the organization and was doing family worship twice a week. The insomnia was what pushed him over the edge I think. I miss him. I don't know if he knew ttatt. I didn't know ttatt myself at the time. I can't help but wonder. -
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Wt "study" Participation, is it a "True Believer" Indication?-- or not?
by prologos inin our congregation, the elders rarely comment.
the majority rarely comment, 2 sisters, vehemently, and often comment.
since in their case, it can not possibly be" teaching in the congregation", is participation in the wt "study"in general an affirmation of faith?
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xjwsrock
If you read books like Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion, you learn that people are influenced by having to say something out loud. Commenting in the congregation forces people to publicly commit to their faith. This reinforces the indoctrination in a big way. It's one thing for someone else to tell you from a stage, it's something altogether different to hear it coming out of your own mouth.
Field service has a strong reinforcing effect as well. I believe this is the main reason for field service. The recruiting aspect is secondary.
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Wt "study" Participation, is it a "True Believer" Indication?-- or not?
by prologos inin our congregation, the elders rarely comment.
the majority rarely comment, 2 sisters, vehemently, and often comment.
since in their case, it can not possibly be" teaching in the congregation", is participation in the wt "study"in general an affirmation of faith?
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xjwsrock
Island Man - I agree.
The dose-of-sanity comment is all I can muster anymore. If the paragraph happens to be encouraging normal ethical behavior or discouraging unethical behavior then i can comment.
If it's another we are right, the whole world is wrong, God is going to kill you if you are unfaithful, aren't the Governing Body amazing type paragraphs, then I can't do it. I have a visceral reaction to that BS propaganda now.
I have gone many watchtower studies without finding one comment I could stomach making. I am an elder btw.
To answer the OP - Is WT Commenting a True Believer Indicator? - Yes for those that are sincere. It is also a way to appear that you are a believer for those of us that are faking it for now.
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"Special" has lost its' special meaning
by stillin intoday is the day of the annual "special talk.
" it took me all of two years to realize not to get my hopes up for anything special.. then came the special assembly day.
sad.
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xjwsrock
Thanks Stuckinarut.
I keep looking around the hall lately, thinking "Surely someone else is outraged at this!" I look and I don't see anybody markedly disturbed, but I'm starting to wonder about all those "crazies". You know the ones. Maybe they all know what's up and that's why they're "crazy".
I can't take it much longer. The wife may have to be one of those with an "unbelieving mate" soon.
--Sorry to get off topic. The Special Talk was awful. It's like they aren't even trying. "Do the Cult stuff again...." is overheard in the writing dept. often these days.
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How much do you think GB enjoy their lives?
by elbib inmany who have watched the gb know that they seem to be desperate to be admired, to be looked up to…….
now the question arises—do they really enjoy their lives?
does their superiority complex make them feel good?.
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xjwsrock
If you notice, they will remind you of their position during a talk (in case you missed it being announced as they took the stage). They will mention their international travels, how hard they work as a GB member, special experiences from people approaching them and pouring their heart out, yada yada.
Wouldn't it be nice if people would used their authority to make a positive difference instead of patting themselves on the back and pushing their agenda. But that's just not how it works usually.
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organization obsesion
by Richard C B inwhy are you guys so obsessed with organizations?
there has to be order in the world and organised people!
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xjwsrock
Cults are some of the most organized organizations on earth. So are dictatorships. I guess we should praise them because of their neat checklists.
Look... I get it that sheeple need a pen, but exploitation is another thing altogether.
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"Special" has lost its' special meaning
by stillin intoday is the day of the annual "special talk.
" it took me all of two years to realize not to get my hopes up for anything special.. then came the special assembly day.
sad.
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xjwsrock
Another propaganda piece painting the entire human experience as 2 road choices. One leads to everlasting life (please make checks payable to Watchtower) and the other leads to eternal destruction. Jehovah happy if you take the JW road. Devil happy if you take the other road.
Let's see how many culty boxes we can check off in one "special" talk. Black-and white thinking, us vs. them, promise of eternal blessings if you pick the right road (be a JW), promise of fiery destruction at Armageddon if you pick wrong road (anything that is not being a JW), one-sided argument with no rebuttal allowed, followed by a huge piece of behavioral control in the Watchtower study espousing how happy field service makes us and what a wonderful undeserved privilege it is (the rocks could cry it out - doncha know)
I think we pretty much checked off the whole cult checklist in one meeting.
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Memorial Audience Filled with Unbelieving Mates and Other Miserable Relatives
by xjwsrock ini looked around my hall and saw so many miserable unbelieving mates and relatives it was actually funny.
they were in a glazed-over stupor.
they looked liked children forced to go to an opera.
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xjwsrock
I looked around my hall and saw so many miserable unbelieving mates and relatives it was actually funny. They were in a glazed-over stupor. They looked liked children forced to go to an opera. One even took a call from his cell phone (not on vibrate), left outside, and never returned.
I wonder how many of the "20 million" attendees are coerced there through some sort of familial blackmale or threat/ obligation.
All I'm saying is I saw many people there simply to check off a box on somebody else's checklist. Know what I mean?