Posts by xjwsrock

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-12-2017 WT Study (FREE WILL)

by blondie in

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excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

xjwsrock

Thanks Blondie. They continue to exploit the uneducated. I think the point of this article is to convince mentally imprisoned cult members that they're actually free. Laughable insanity.

"You're not enslaved cult members doing the bidding of a sleazy corporation corrupted by power and money..... no no .... you are beautiful creatures of free will that have sacrificed that freedom to serve God."

Pretty simple scam really. Get people to do what you want by telling them God wants them to to it. Oh and God put them in charge of telling people what he wants of course. Lol.

It would be funny if it wasn't such criminal con-artistry.

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Navigating the "real world"

by Minerva in

although i haven't called myself a witness in almost 15 years, i'm still married to one (which has it's own set of challenges and is fodder for a completely different post).

i haven't spent a lot of time on forums with other ex-jws either, but thought i would throw this question out to you all because it's something i still struggle with.... particularly for those of you who were raised in or were in the religion for many years - what has it been like for you to navigate the work world?

i would be a 3rd generation jw on one side of my family and a 4th generation on the other side -- the hardest thing for me has been just knowing how to act and behave, especially among co-workers.

xjwsrock

Could be that you feel in constant limbo because of your spouse still in the religion. It might be how you're wired up though. I haven't read it, but there is a new study out about smart people needing to be alone more. You can google it up pretty easy.

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Navigating the "real world"

by Minerva in

although i haven't called myself a witness in almost 15 years, i'm still married to one (which has it's own set of challenges and is fodder for a completely different post).

i haven't spent a lot of time on forums with other ex-jws either, but thought i would throw this question out to you all because it's something i still struggle with.... particularly for those of you who were raised in or were in the religion for many years - what has it been like for you to navigate the work world?

i would be a 3rd generation jw on one side of my family and a 4th generation on the other side -- the hardest thing for me has been just knowing how to act and behave, especially among co-workers.

xjwsrock

I have two thoughts.

One is that being normal may not completely be in the cards since you aren't going to relate to your co-workers foundational experiences in life. Catholic school, holidays, playing sports, after school clubs, church youth groups, girlfriends, boyfriends, trying pot, going to prom, etc.

My second thought is that a person that grew up in another country would prob not have those experiences either but may still feel normal.

I guess I would need you to define what normal is or what abnormal is in your situation.

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Imperfect Spiritual Food

by berrygerry in

the feb 2017 wt is being reviewed here because of the "neither inspired nor infallible" potential of the gb.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6237447308443648/major-doctrinal-changes-must-on-way.

this indeed has been stated in the past.. an equally interesting phrase in that paragraph is: "of course, jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food.".

again, wt is using the "jesus never said" line.. what would make more sense is: "jesus never said that the food would be imperfect or harmless.".

xjwsrock

Fallible men intermittently backed by the infallible Creator.

In other words bull shit.

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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy in

that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

xjwsrock

When a JW tells you that the GB are humble men who don't claim to be infallible or inspired, ask them to name one current WT teaching they think is wrong.
Their silence will speak volumes.

Brilliant.

The mental pretzel goes like this, though. "We know we are wrong about stuff but we have to wait on Jehovah to sort it out in his due time."

Blind irrational allegiance - and they think it proves their FAITH. It's a diabolical deception. Also they are convinced that their door to door sales activity was prophesied by God. What do you do with that?

You have to laugh to not cry........

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

xjwsrock

It's CYA of some sort. I think JWLeaks made a good point that it could be an organizational change.

They are effing up everywhere so there's no telling.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

xjwsrock

On the 1914 topic....

There is a precedent already for moving the Last Days and they love past precedent in this organization.

The original Last Days beginning date was 1799 and then moved to 1914. So this religion has already taken the liberty of allowing the entire Last Days to roll forward 115 years.

Since we are only 102 years into this round, I don't see 1914 being messed with anytime soon.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

xjwsrock

Lol....

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

xjwsrock

I read through the entire thread and agree 100% with Steve2. This is about pedophiles if it's about anything. Here's a quick reason why - the other doctrines aren't costing them millions of dollars and trouble with major governments!

Also, I agree this double-speak in the WT is not new. I will add this though:

The JW's have already swallowed the mind-twisting concept that GOD'S DIRECTION IS INTERMITTENT!

Look, these are just imperfect men that love Jehovah and have dedicated their entire lives to the doing of his will and the preaching of the good news in every corner of the earth. They pray for God's Holy Spirit before they teach anything or give any direction. Occasionally, though, these men run ahead or allow their imperfections to get in the way, and Jehovah allows this for a while. But we know that Jehovah lovingly corrects the faithful slave in time and redirects their step. Even the Israelites wandered in the wilderness for years before finally being directed to the promised land. May we be determined to follow Jehovah's direction wherever it leads and always be ready to obey his faithful and discreet slave!

So says the super dub.......

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Why Is it the Girls who Hang in There?

by snugglebunny in

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having seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.

conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.

although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..

xjwsrock

I would agree with Xanthippe. The org is even more stifling to women. As an elder you can at least sling an occasional odd ball comment out. If you are a sister you are expected to basically be a Stepford Wife. Many times I have been in congregations where sisters were being murmured about simply for making too many comments at the meetings. They were accused of "teaching the congregation", and of course that's a no-no.

But back to the original question of why don't they leave. I would say again that they on average fall harder into the trap emotionally and are more influenced by the community element.