in page 10 of the correspondence guidelines, in the section of apostasy" i found the following:.
one who has sincere doubts orquestions should be kindly aided inthe spirit of galatians.... i am forced to conclude that many of you didn't get any aid because your doubts were fake.
so according to the wt manual, your main sin may have not been doubting, but faking having doubts.
They put doubters into two categories. The "sincere doubters" that are little innocent doves that maybe heard something that troubles them or have a question they can't get a satisfying answer to.
Then there are the Apostate Devils that have already convinced themselves that the org is crap.
They write off the apostates and disfellowship them. They play shepherd to the "sincere doubter".
when i became an elder i saw the dark side.
a side i previously believed couldn't possibly exist in the one true religion of the happiest people on earth.. then they rolled out 'overlapping generations(tm)' and that was the last straw.. all my life i had doubts but surpressed them thinking i was at fault and not the cult leaders.. it seems more likely that now the governing body are parading around like popes, wearing their expensive jewellery, that this will nauseate even dyed in the wool jws.. i wonder if the wake up can be condensed into main categories?.
1. experiencing the cruel handling of matters by the wbt$ reps.. 2. crazy doctrine (eg.
For me it started with being involved in congregation problems (which are people problems) that were perpetrated and/or exacerbated by "bad elders". I would spend hours and hours twisting my head into a pretzel having long conversations into the night with other brothers, trying to figure out why Jehovah would allow this to go on. Where was the holy spirit,where was Jesus as head of the congregation. The cliche's didn't help. "Jehovah allows things for a reason" "Jehovah allows things for a test" "Wait on Jehovah" etc etc. These cliche's werejust escape hatches for the organization -just excuses anda way to kick the can.
It's nuts to think now. The answer was so easy. This isn't the truth. These are just dudes with varied levels of delusion in a building. There is no "Jehovah" as taught by JW's, there is no Holy Spirit, there are no angels directing the work etc. Once you get that - suddenly it all makes sense. no need for the mental pretzel at all.
My frustrations eventually led me to read online and discover there were way bigger problems than I ever knew about.
cult flakes?.
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(welcome to the height of intellectual thread topics.
LIFE cereal
you pay for it up front (quite expensive)
the promise is an "everlasting" supply
due to be delivered "very soon now"
this pic was posted on a pro jw site.
easy way to get your time in.... no need for special pioneers!.
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nice observation steve.
I wonder if its photoshopped.
the december kingdom ministry (km) is online.
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no schedule for the first week in january 2016 - as in previous december kms.. so another evidence, that beginning with january 2016 the org will change the mid-week-meeting.. -----> download link: http://download.jw.org/files/media_publickm/72/km_e_201512.pdf.
what's worse... prophesying everybody will get a good jab in the eye and then subsequently jabbing everyone in the eye!
Like you said....ASSHOLES!
hello, i haven't posted for a number of years.
i've been struggling for years of wrestling in my mind regarding the organization.
i guess the big thing for me to push me over the edge is the generation overlapping thingy.
It is confusing - mainly because it doesn't make sense - and also it is complete crap.
They don't say the anointed have any special insight - just that the anointed have a special privilege later to rule in heaven with Jesus. Assumed to be chosen because of some special spiritual trait or some such.
i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).
i joined the blog a few weeks ago.
i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.
STA - The more dramatic the attack, the more they will attach to their belief and loyalty. Is how mind control works and that is why is such a powerful tool.
I would add that the education piece is big also. I think uneducated people are generally easier to fool and control. They also have fewer prospects outside the special group.
Like I heard Rush Limbaugh say once: You have to be a little smart to know you're stupid.
Well the typical JW isn't even that smart. :(
hello, i haven't posted for a number of years.
i've been struggling for years of wrestling in my mind regarding the organization.
i guess the big thing for me to push me over the edge is the generation overlapping thingy.
Damn good point Pete.
I will use that one.
i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.
it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.
that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.
Dariokehl,
That was too real.
JW Elders = Blissful Ignorant Authority
Gotta love it.
hello, i haven't posted for a number of years.
i've been struggling for years of wrestling in my mind regarding the organization.
i guess the big thing for me to push me over the edge is the generation overlapping thingy.
After reading OEJ's comment I thought about this.
Franz was pretty young by today's JW standards to have been "anointed" in 1914. Such a thing would never fly today. Just sayin!
