Posts by xjwsrock

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Do You Think Any Of The Governing Body Are Contemplating Suicide? Over This Rather Rude Financial Reality?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

faithful and always so very discrete in many things but when it comes to the lord's money not so good.. i think as it begins to register in their minds as to what a terrible job they have done as ceos of a large corporation leading it into this condition that thoughts of suicide come from.

not to mention the shame at being a public spetical to the world by the rc.

all these things and more are creeping through their denial as they are forced to face reality.

xjwsrock

On one hand they are under a lot of stress running a religious ponzi scheme, whether they are awake or not.

On the other hand they are completely relieved of the normal financial stresses of life. They have zero expenses, a comfortable lifestyle, go-men all around them, 24 hour security, top-notch health care, etc.

Suicide? Nah. Even in a company downturn their life is way better than most by many measures. They have no fear of layoff either, much different than many of the underlings serving them.

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Samuel Herd's statement about donations and Cialdini's social proof

by slimboyfat in

samuel herd made a statement a few weeks ago about halting construction work, laying off bethel workers and reducing printing output: severe cutbacks all round.

he said, like the head of a household, the gb has to make sure the organisation is living within its means.

but he added a very careful phrase, something like: "be assured brothers these measures have not been taken as a result of any lack of financial support on your part.

xjwsrock

Well they already chastised the flock in the May broadcast. So it isn't like they are above it, but I get your point. I think it may be accomplishing two things. It's reinforcing the positive (donating) - similar to what you mentioned in the OP - and it's a veiled way of saying "This isn't about not having enough money".

Of course it is about that, but the WT loves to pee on your leg and call it rain.

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

xjwsrock

Good one Doc...

I agree wholeheartedly.

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The Angels will guide a nuclear bomb away from the Governing Body!

by John Aquila in

this is one major reason why i dont try to wake up anyone anymore.

they need to take the first step, and then i will help---- if they ask.

otherwise i just listen and marvel at how some of them think.

xjwsrock

Why is religious propaganda dangerous?

Because people really believe it !!!!!

I mean think about it. What is this guy capable of with these fantasies rolling around in his head?

Governing Body.. you should be ashamed.

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Greetings

by Pioneerbot in

wanted to say hi.

i've been lurking for a long time.

i also spend time on other forums.

xjwsrock

Welcome ...

If I could share a scripture with you my dear sister.....(condescending elder voice)

Let's turn together to John...the 8th chapter....and verse 32...

and it reads...

"Then you will know the truth (about the truth), and the truth (about the truth) will set you free."

Now did you get the point there....

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Do You Think 10% Tithing is Coming?

by xjwsrock in

firstly, there are cash flow problems in wt town.

i don't think it's necessary to list all the cutbacks and layoffs, but there have been many.. their thirst for money seems higher too in my opinion.

more entitled may be a better way of putting it.

xjwsrock

GrreatTeacher - those are some good points. I could see that type of program being implemented, especially since they already did an anonymous pledge last year for the new "loan-forgiven" arrangement.

James, that could be a great illustration for an assembly part after the new program gets implemented. The friends would chuckle to themselves and then dutifully pay their tithe/pledge.

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Is it true? Heard a rumor WT postphones Disfellowshipping until further notice!!??

by Olivia Wilde in

i am not sure if it's true but i heard from a good source that wt has given instructions to elders to postponed disfellowshipping members from wrong doing/gross sin until further instructions given by headquarters.

i heard some jws were just reproved either privately or publically.

has anyone else heard anything like this recently?

xjwsrock

I will say this. Less than a year ago, they taught elders to disfellowship quicker and to be more cautious about reinstating. They were basically counseling brothers about being too soft.

But then again earlier this year we were embarking on the biggest construction program ever initiated by "God's people" in the history of mankind....Now it's 90% shutdown.

So who knows...

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Is it true? Heard a rumor WT postphones Disfellowshipping until further notice!!??

by Olivia Wilde in

i am not sure if it's true but i heard from a good source that wt has given instructions to elders to postponed disfellowshipping members from wrong doing/gross sin until further instructions given by headquarters.

i heard some jws were just reproved either privately or publically.

has anyone else heard anything like this recently?

xjwsrock

I am an elder.

I don't see any letters on it when I log in. It still could be true but I haven't heard anything.

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They took all the circuit's money!

by BackSlider in

jw
friends

during the assembly they made an announcement about contributions and as always mentioned how expenses outnumbered the contributions so far and we are at a deficit of $6700 or so.

however, they then said that our money on hand in savings for the circuit was $51,000 and that they voted and will be sending $45,000 of it to the society.

who voted?

xjwsrock

Yes I have sat in those stupid elders "business" meetings. You have as much say as a typical congregation resolution. In other words, zero. A handful of brothers have already made the decisions based on "direction" from the branch. You are a putz if you disagree or ask any questions.

If this were a loving organization that was truly "Christian" and generous, then they would use the Circuit's surplus to pay for the assembly outright. There is no need for the "friends" to feel obligated to give for this assembly if they already have 50k in the bank.

How cool would it be to hear this announced from the platform,

" Friends, Jehovah has provided for our circuit in an abundant way! We already have more than enough to take care of our Circuit obligations. If you would like to make a donation to the WWW, then feel free to do that at any of the boxes... How does it make you feel, to know Jehovah has taken care of you in this way?....." (thunderous applause)

But that never and I mean NEVER happens. What do they do instead? Guilt-trip the attendees by telling them there is a deficit. That is an implied obligation and expectation for the attendees' to pony up. The 45k donation is mentioned separately as if it isn't the attendees' donations.

Gotta love greed cloaked in self-righteousness.

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Teaching Committee Helper blames weighed down feelings on "perspective"

by wifibandit in

he mentions changes in assignment at 1:14 and 7:09.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1uufpx8jqk.

xjwsrock

The stress and negative world view was caused by them not life. I wish more people could wake up and see that.- Seeking Agape

Well said. I hope to fully experience that some day...