Posts by xjwsrock

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Touching scene from angel-A

by sillygirlforgotpassword in

i was going through a pretty rough patch the last couple of weeks after a breakup, a "vacation" spent at my parents, some health scares and other random thoughts the realization i'm not 25 and as toned and consistently fresh faced anymore (feel free to call me shallow because that i am ;).

i fully agree that we aren't to worry about aging, but aging gracefully!

2 weeks at home spent being harassed by my parents for not being up to the spiritual mark didn't help either.

xjwsrock

That's powerful

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Zone visit Australia?

by stuckinarut2 in

anyone else at this zone visit?.

more higher education bashing, with an embellished "experience"...... more quoting prov 4:18 out of context.. faithful and discreet slave definitions etc..... all the new "understandings" since 2012...... .

we are already in the great tribulation...?.

xjwsrock

Are you serious?

Did they say that we are in the great trib?

We all knew the day was coming.......but I figured they would keep that one in their pocket for awhile longer.

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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

by Lady Lee in

thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

xjwsrock

I know 6 or 7. Loner type people usually but one that I was close to had some mental issues that surfaced occasionally. He went through a crazy manic phase barely sleeping. He came back to the organization and was doing family worship twice a week. The insomnia was what pushed him over the edge I think. I miss him. I don't know if he knew ttatt. I didn't know ttatt myself at the time. I can't help but wonder.

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JW to be banned in Russia soon?

by I am a Bible Student in

i saw this on jw.org today:.

xjwsrock

Russia must be anti-cult. :)

I still haven't seen a post on JW dot org about the "persecution" of the Australian Royal Commission.

Wonder why?

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Wt "study" Participation, is it a "True Believer" Indication?-- or not?

by prologos in

in our congregation, the elders rarely comment.

the majority rarely comment, 2 sisters, vehemently, and often comment.

since in their case, it can not possibly be" teaching in the congregation", is participation in the wt "study"in general an affirmation of faith?

xjwsrock

If you read books like Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion, you learn that people are influenced by having to say something out loud. Commenting in the congregation forces people to publicly commit to their faith. This reinforces the indoctrination in a big way. It's one thing for someone else to tell you from a stage, it's something altogether different to hear it coming out of your own mouth.

Field service has a strong reinforcing effect as well. I believe this is the main reason for field service. The recruiting aspect is secondary.

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Wt "study" Participation, is it a "True Believer" Indication?-- or not?

by prologos in

in our congregation, the elders rarely comment.

the majority rarely comment, 2 sisters, vehemently, and often comment.

since in their case, it can not possibly be" teaching in the congregation", is participation in the wt "study"in general an affirmation of faith?

xjwsrock

Island Man - I agree.

The dose-of-sanity comment is all I can muster anymore. If the paragraph happens to be encouraging normal ethical behavior or discouraging unethical behavior then i can comment.

If it's another we are right, the whole world is wrong, God is going to kill you if you are unfaithful, aren't the Governing Body amazing type paragraphs, then I can't do it. I have a visceral reaction to that BS propaganda now.

I have gone many watchtower studies without finding one comment I could stomach making. I am an elder btw.

To answer the OP - Is WT Commenting a True Believer Indicator? - Yes for those that are sincere. It is also a way to appear that you are a believer for those of us that are faking it for now.

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"Special" has lost its' special meaning

by stillin in

today is the day of the annual "special talk.

" it took me all of two years to realize not to get my hopes up for anything special.. then came the special assembly day.

sad.

xjwsrock

Thanks Stuckinarut.

I keep looking around the hall lately, thinking "Surely someone else is outraged at this!" I look and I don't see anybody markedly disturbed, but I'm starting to wonder about all those "crazies". You know the ones. Maybe they all know what's up and that's why they're "crazy".

I can't take it much longer. The wife may have to be one of those with an "unbelieving mate" soon.

--Sorry to get off topic. The Special Talk was awful. It's like they aren't even trying. "Do the Cult stuff again...." is overheard in the writing dept. often these days.

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How much do you think GB enjoy their lives?

by elbib in

many who have watched the gb know that they seem to be desperate to be admired, to be looked up to…….

now the question arises—do they really enjoy their lives?

does their superiority complex make them feel good?.

xjwsrock

If you notice, they will remind you of their position during a talk (in case you missed it being announced as they took the stage). They will mention their international travels, how hard they work as a GB member, special experiences from people approaching them and pouring their heart out, yada yada.

Wouldn't it be nice if people would used their authority to make a positive difference instead of patting themselves on the back and pushing their agenda. But that's just not how it works usually.

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organization obsesion

by Richard C B in

why are you guys so obsessed with organizations?

there has to be order in the world and organised people!

xjwsrock

Cults are some of the most organized organizations on earth. So are dictatorships. I guess we should praise them because of their neat checklists.

Look... I get it that sheeple need a pen, but exploitation is another thing altogether.

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"Special" has lost its' special meaning

by stillin in

today is the day of the annual "special talk.

" it took me all of two years to realize not to get my hopes up for anything special.. then came the special assembly day.

sad.

xjwsrock

Another propaganda piece painting the entire human experience as 2 road choices. One leads to everlasting life (please make checks payable to Watchtower) and the other leads to eternal destruction. Jehovah happy if you take the JW road. Devil happy if you take the other road.

Let's see how many culty boxes we can check off in one "special" talk. Black-and white thinking, us vs. them, promise of eternal blessings if you pick the right road (be a JW), promise of fiery destruction at Armageddon if you pick wrong road (anything that is not being a JW), one-sided argument with no rebuttal allowed, followed by a huge piece of behavioral control in the Watchtower study espousing how happy field service makes us and what a wonderful undeserved privilege it is (the rocks could cry it out - doncha know)

I think we pretty much checked off the whole cult checklist in one meeting.