Posts by xjwsrock

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Could they make not donating a disfellowshipping offence?

by purrpurr in

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i'm wondering at how far the borg could go in begging for money?

their halls are already resembling the"money changers in the temple".

as they get sued more and more due to their pedophilic paradise their coffers will be ever more drained.

xjwsrock

I agree with MarkofCane.

I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but jworg accepts donations already on the website. A person can also setup recurring donations (how nice of them). I can see them pushing this a bit in the future and expecting publishers in good standing to have an automatic draft setup.

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One point that I think about is the commingling of funds between local and branch that you have now. I think this has overall decreased cash flow for the org. They just couldn't resist the temptation to snag local money a couple of years ago and now they step in periodically and pressure congregations to give their "surplus" to the branch. The CO looks at the accounts now to find surplus funds for the branch on each visit.

You used to see certain JWs that would give money to the local congregation but not to the branch. I assume that these individuals were more comfortable seeing their money put to good use in a tangible way at the local level. With this money grabbing from the branch, these "local contributors" are not nearly as prevalent. There's no sure way to give money now and it not get grabbed up by "mother".

The only way I donate is if I am buying something specific for the hall or giving my time to hall maintenance. I do not put money in the box at all. I am not alone in this.

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"Hope for what we do not see" - Review

by problemaddict 2 in

i give it 3 thumbs down.. the video starts with an ambulance in peru.

the ambulance people look at an id and a no blood card in spanish.. quick flash away to now and a happy family of a couple with 2 young boys.

all good kids it collages their everyday life, all centered around theocratic activities.

xjwsrock

(I posted this on another thread:)

Could that thing be more depressing? I mean hell. They killed off 3 people gave one cancer and got him laid off from work.

it's hard for me to imagine that this type of video doesn't actually instill doubts in people. The reasonings of the "worldly" people were more coherent than the witnesses.

The scriptural hopes actually come across illusory and naive. God is given credit for their rebound without any blame for allowing the fall in the first place. The shepherding brothers actually bothered to mention Job, as if that account is going to make somebody feel better.

It's disturbing to see what the org is turning into. There is obviously no Armageddon anytime soon. The urgency is gone so they have to resort to this suffering-is-a-virtue brainwashing. The messaging is too specific for it not to be completely calculated. So all those out there that think the leadership is sincere but wrong, think again. These are calculating manipulators keeping people stuck emotionally for their personal gain.

They are heartless greedy sociopaths.

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-I will add that I agree it is well produced but the acting is terrible. This IMO makes the manipulative agenda more transparent and simultaneously less effective.

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"Can we question leadership?" Check out the Morman answer....

by stuckinarut2 in

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http://stakepresident.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/can-members-question-church-doctrine.html.

how interesting!

see a similarity?.

xjwsrock

They never make it home. They jerk in the Church lavatory.

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

xjwsrock

Just watched the hope one.

Could that thing be more depressing? I mean hell. They killed off 3 people gave one cancer and got him laid off from work.

it's hard for me to imagine that this type of video doesn't actually instill doubts in people. The reasonings of the "worldly" people were more coherent than the witnesses.

The scriptural hopes actually come across illusory and naive. God is given credit for their rebound without any blame for allowing the fall in the first place. The shepherding brothers actually bothered to mention Job, as if that account is going to make somebody feel better.

It's disturbing to see what the org is turning into. There is obviously no Armageddon anytime soon. The urgency is gone so they have to resort to this suffering-is-a-virtue brainwashing. The messaging is too specific for it not to be completely calculated. So all those out there that think the leadership is sincere but wrong, think again. These are calculating manipulators keeping people stuck emotionally for their personal gain.

They are heartless greedy sociopaths.

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Is it common practice to keep using Kingdom Halls after congregations have been dissolved?

by keyser soze in

i ask, because a neighboring congregation of where i used to attend was dissolved, and the people from there were scattered about to whatever congregation was closest.

but it turns out that they still meet at the old kingdom hall a couple times a week, for field service.

apparently this is done for tax purposes.. i suppose from a fiscal standpoint it makes sense, though it seems a little deceitful.

xjwsrock

I will say it certainly isn't normal. Something is up. Could be many things, though.

I hear the organization will keep secrets and lie to protect "Mother".

So good luck getting a straight answer.

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

xjwsrock

Well, what's on our side is that they (JW leadership) are irreparably stupid.

They live in a bubble. They live in an echo chamber.

They have no clue how this stuff plays outside the asylum. When they are done, the only JWs left will be wide eyed morons and ne'er-do-wells.

More and more normal people are going to wake up to these amateurish tactics and their palpable desperation.

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"Can we question leadership?" Check out the Morman answer....

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

http://stakepresident.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/can-members-question-church-doctrine.html.

how interesting!

see a similarity?.

xjwsrock

It's better not to question, it leads to too much thought.

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Paradise-Like Image - Why?

by berrygerry in

reading an amusing bible story (revised slightly), and noticed how much the earth is like a paradise.. wasn't it supposed to be thorns and thistles?.

http://imgur.com/hcu1uxt.

xjwsrock

Lolololol

funny story

BS pic. No consistency. Still drawing Garden of Eden pics after the fact. Stupidity.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

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homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

xjwsrock

Comparing homosexuality to carrying a duffle bag seems to be intentional insensitivity and a perpetuating of ignorance. Like someone can just drop homosexual leanings or desires like a dropping a piece of carry-on luggage.

Whether this can be considered discriminatory is prob in the eye of the beholder. A case could certainly be made for it.

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An Atheist gives Credit To Religions

by smiddy in

even though i now consider myself an atheist and have little time for religion as such , i have to acknowledge that some religious institutions , and even some i would consider a cult more so than others , do a fantastic job in the field of charitable works.. for so many in our communities who are disadvantaged ,in one way or another , the down and outs , for a better phrase , those that have succumbed to alcoholism , drug dependency , mental illness in it`s many forms , homeless people , juveniles suffering abuse of one sort or another at home , domestic violence , etc.

etc.

the list just goes on and on .. yet their are religious charitable institutions who are at the forefront of helping these people offering and lending a hand both physically , emotionally , and even financially to support these people without judging them .. so even though i consider myself an atheist i can commend what these religious institutions do to for these people... i can`t say the same thing for jehovah`s witnesses who will take , take , take and give nothing in return.. smiddy.

xjwsrock

Amen Smiddy

I am increasingly disturbed by the lack of charity and thus lack of care on the part of JW's.

Anybody with any sense can see that their "preaching work" can be interpreted as simply recruiting for their religion.

What happened to being sensitive to the "appearance" of wrongdoing?

Attention Governing Body!

You have the appearance of not giving a damn about starving or dying people or those recently abused. Guess what? Your kingdom hope..... Does nothing for a person struggling today. It does nothing for someone with 3 months to live. Nothing... Read your bible. Jesus didn't just recruit people and give his followers busy work.

I am an active elder.

I SEE you.

I will not be silent.