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  "Hope for what we do not see" - Review

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  2. beliefs

  i give it 3 thumbs down.. the video starts with an ambulance in peru.

  the ambulance people look at an id and a no blood card in spanish.. quick flash away to now and a happy family of a couple with 2 young boys.

  all good kids it collages their everyday life, all centered around theocratic activities.

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  I think it teaches suffering is a virtue. God demands sacrifice that hurts.

  This dovetails nicely in the call for simplifying (sacrifice) to give more money and time to the org.

  It encourages giving up. Since life in this system will never be anything but tragedy and heartbreak (according to the messaging), just give this life to "Jehovah" aka the WTBTS, and earn your next life. You can live then with your resurrected family.

  I see it as abusive. Beat down the friends emotionally and they can be more easily controlled.

  Same line of reasoning as abusive husbands that "keep a woman barefoot and pregnant" and tell her she will never amount to anything.
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  Could they make not donating a disfellowshipping offence?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm wondering at how far the borg could go in begging for money?

  their halls are already resembling the"money changers in the temple".

  as they get sued more and more due to their pedophilic paradise their coffers will be ever more drained.

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  I agree with MarkofCane.

  I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but jworg accepts donations already on the website. A person can also setup recurring donations (how nice of them). I can see them pushing this a bit in the future and expecting publishers in good standing to have an automatic draft setup.

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  One point that I think about is the commingling of funds between local and branch that you have now. I think this has overall decreased cash flow for the org. They just couldn't resist the temptation to snag local money a couple of years ago and now they step in periodically and pressure congregations to give their "surplus" to the branch. The CO looks at the accounts now to find surplus funds for the branch on each visit.

  You used to see certain JWs that would give money to the local congregation but not to the branch. I assume that these individuals were more comfortable seeing their money put to good use in a tangible way at the local level. With this money grabbing from the branch, these "local contributors" are not nearly as prevalent. There's no sure way to give money now and it not get grabbed up by "mother".

  The only way I donate is if I am buying something specific for the hall or giving my time to hall maintenance. I do not put money in the box at all. I am not alone in this.
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  "Hope for what we do not see" - Review

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i give it 3 thumbs down.. the video starts with an ambulance in peru.

  the ambulance people look at an id and a no blood card in spanish.. quick flash away to now and a happy family of a couple with 2 young boys.

  all good kids it collages their everyday life, all centered around theocratic activities.

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  (I posted this on another thread:)

  Could that thing be more depressing? I mean hell. They killed off 3 people gave one cancer and got him laid off from work.

  it's hard for me to imagine that this type of video doesn't actually instill doubts in people. The reasonings of the "worldly" people were more coherent than the witnesses.

  The scriptural hopes actually come across illusory and naive. God is given credit for their rebound without any blame for allowing the fall in the first place. The shepherding brothers actually bothered to mention Job, as if that account is going to make somebody feel better.

  It's disturbing to see what the org is turning into. There is obviously no Armageddon anytime soon. The urgency is gone so they have to resort to this suffering-is-a-virtue brainwashing. The messaging is too specific for it not to be completely calculated. So all those out there that think the leadership is sincere but wrong, think again. These are calculating manipulators keeping people stuck emotionally for their personal gain.

  They are heartless greedy sociopaths.

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  -I will add that I agree it is well produced but the acting is terrible. This IMO makes the manipulative agenda more transparent and simultaneously less effective.
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  "Can we question leadership?" Check out the Morman answer....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://stakepresident.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/can-members-question-church-doctrine.html.

  how interesting!

  see a similarity?.

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  xjwsrock

  They never make it home. They jerk in the Church lavatory.
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  RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

  now, on with the leaks & releases!

  first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

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  xjwsrock

  Just watched the hope one.

  Could that thing be more depressing? I mean hell. They killed off 3 people gave one cancer and got him laid off from work.

  it's hard for me to imagine that this type of video doesn't actually instill doubts in people. The reasonings of the "worldly" people were more coherent than the witnesses.

  The scriptural hopes actually come across illusory and naive. God is given credit for their rebound without any blame for allowing the fall in the first place. The shepherding brothers actually bothered to mention Job, as if that account is going to make somebody feel better.

  It's disturbing to see what the org is turning into. There is obviously no Armageddon anytime soon. The urgency is gone so they have to resort to this suffering-is-a-virtue brainwashing. The messaging is too specific for it not to be completely calculated. So all those out there that think the leadership is sincere but wrong, think again. These are calculating manipulators keeping people stuck emotionally for their personal gain.

  They are heartless greedy sociopaths.
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  Is it common practice to keep using Kingdom Halls after congregations have been dissolved?

  by keyser soze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask, because a neighboring congregation of where i used to attend was dissolved, and the people from there were scattered about to whatever congregation was closest.

  but it turns out that they still meet at the old kingdom hall a couple times a week, for field service.

  apparently this is done for tax purposes.. i suppose from a fiscal standpoint it makes sense, though it seems a little deceitful.

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  I will say it certainly isn't normal. Something is up. Could be many things, though.

  I hear the organization will keep secrets and lie to protect "Mother".

  So good luck getting a straight answer.
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  Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow this is interesting!

  i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

  they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

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  Well, what's on our side is that they (JW leadership) are irreparably stupid.

  They live in a bubble. They live in an echo chamber.

  They have no clue how this stuff plays outside the asylum. When they are done, the only JWs left will be wide eyed morons and ne'er-do-wells.

  More and more normal people are going to wake up to these amateurish tactics and their palpable desperation.
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  "Can we question leadership?" Check out the Morman answer....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://stakepresident.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/can-members-question-church-doctrine.html.

  how interesting!

  see a similarity?.

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  It's better not to question, it leads to too much thought.
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  Paradise-Like Image - Why?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  reading an amusing bible story (revised slightly), and noticed how much the earth is like a paradise.. wasn't it supposed to be thorns and thistles?.

  http://imgur.com/hcu1uxt.

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  Lolololol

  funny story

  BS pic. No consistency. Still drawing Garden of Eden pics after the fact. Stupidity.
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  Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

  by turtleturtle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  homophobia (m-w.com):.

  : irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

  can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

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  Comparing homosexuality to carrying a duffle bag seems to be intentional insensitivity and a perpetuating of ignorance. Like someone can just drop homosexual leanings or desires like a dropping a piece of carry-on luggage.

  Whether this can be considered discriminatory is prob in the eye of the beholder. A case could certainly be made for it.