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  Isn’t concept of sinner itself faulty?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a person may sometimes get swelling on his leg and may have limped a few times—but he is never called lame.

  similarly, sometimes a person may slip into selfishness and use his free-will to his own harm or to the harm of others—but this does not make him a sinner because the ability to do the contrary (ability choose to commit virtuous act to any extent) too exists in him.

  if one’s occasional sinning does not make him a sinner, sin of another person (such as first human couple) can never make others sinners.

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  Isn't it a sin to punish someone for something someone else did?

  Billions sentenced to death for something Adam did has to be the biggest sIn of all time.
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  Next years special talk

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you may be aware, next years "special" talk is to be given 1 week before the memorial.

  they have just issued the following instruction as well -.

  please note that bodies of elders should not take steps to assign a speaker for the special talk until further information is provided by the branch office.. .

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  New instructions for memorial perhaps?
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  in retrospect: RBCs vs LDCs / the hype about a lot of new construction and subsequent abrupt halt to construction

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so, now that some time has passed, i’d like some input/thoughts/analysis/etc.

  on the jw construction situation in the last few years.. first, why did they discontinue the rbc arrangement and institute the ldc arrangement?

  was it for more and/or better control?

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  I remember a video for elders rolling out this "never before" construction crap. I missed that elders meeting to host a graduation party that was previously planned. I never did see it.

  Looking back now I wonder if it was all to make the money grab that they did, robbing the coffers of local congregations. There was certainly a story sold that "mother" would be handling expenses going forward, so there would be no need for local cash reserves. Of course that never happened. Huge lie. They took the money and ran.
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  The most absurd reason have you heard someone disfellowshipped for ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  someone said on forum they knew someone df for not going to assigned meeting in old days .

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  Lap dances. Df'd, gave wife scriptural grounds, and she divorced him. Wife was treated like the victim of scandal and husband ostricized like a leper.
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  What would happen to a JW who respectfully refused to fill out a no blood DPA?

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know you'll be involuntarily disassociated if you unrepentantly accepted a blood transfusion; and i know you'll be disfellowshipped for apostasy if you openly disagreed with watchtower teaching.

  what if you have done none of the above but simply respectfully refused to fill out the dpa without giving any reason for your refusal - so they can't accuse you of openly disagreeing with the no-blood doctrine and df you for apostasy.

  they don't know why you're refusing and you're not giving them the reason - and you're being very respectful.. what can they do?.

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  Im an elder and I havent filled one out in at least 10 years.
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  The words I refuse to use

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  new system, brother, sister , kingdom hall, wordly person, in the truth .

  there is a whole jw language that has to be deprogrammed..

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  I'm trying real hard to not say

  FUCK JEHOVAHS WITNESSES!!!

  hard to do ....
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  Who Do You Think Is HOTTTT?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what attracts you in a male or female?

  give me an example or better yet a pic to tell me what you like.😈.

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  What are the chances of getting another Raymond Franz default from head office ?

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  all regimes get defectors and some are more vocal than others..

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  Considering that you could only be one of two things and be on the governing body - deluded or a crook - what are the chances that one would change course?

  Regardless of the category, they are all paid off. They are bought. You would have to make 500,000 dollars a year to replace their lifestyle. Let's face it, few persons have that kind of selfless conviction.
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  Is JW.org unbreakable

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask this question for good reason.

  let's face it, despite all the books, videos, forums, court cases, hearings, protests etc that have been exposing the society for many years.

  jw.org continues to roll on almost 'it seems' unscathed.. for example, just walk into any kingdom hall there is not so much as a whisper about anything that has been exposed outside of jw land.

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  It's all about real estate now. They have set up a separate corporation call JW Congregation Support Inc. It is the real estate arm of the organization. It is the wealth building arm. They have given up on the network marketing/publishing business model. The new corporation is by far the most important now. The religion is just the face of it - it is just to draw free labor from. They are siphoning off the best and the brightest talent into the LDC. The LDC of course is under the new corporation. It is 100% the Mcdonalds model. Watch the movie The Founder about Ray Kroc and see what the organization is doing. Quite eye opening.
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  New Tool To Help Cult Survivors.  From an EXJW

  by TTaTT4U in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

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  https://bonniezieman.com/2017/05/09/cracking-the-cult-code-for-therapists-what-cult-victims-want-their-therapist-to-know/.

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  Therapy can be a matter of opinion and judgement. Different therapists can approach a situation different ways. Coming from a place where I lost someone very close to me in my extended family to suicide, I realize the seriousness of always putting every safety net in place imaginable if the threat is real. Hotlines, doctors, family, friends, you name it. I'm sure Bonnie would agree with that if asked.

  I must say, I am reading Exiting the JW Cult and it is just as healing for me as actual therapy, which I have had. It is hard to put into words what it means to be understood by a professional and have your feelings and thoughts validated. This cult makes you second guess yourself. It is part of the programming. Using some of the recommended practices for healing like journaling my feelings daily to get them out has been enormously helpful. My confidence is building and I am putting together concrete plans for my fade. I am a pimo elder married to a devout witness. I am 4th generation. She is 6th. The potential fallout is overwhelming.

  Anyhow, I look forward to finishing this book and reading more of her works. I fully recomend her books as a substitute for therapy, if it is not available or possible, or as a supplemnt to your therapy.