"Do you believe in freedom of religion?"
(yes of course)
"Then why do you not speak to people when they quit your religion?"
hi guys.
sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.
just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.
"Do you believe in freedom of religion?"
(yes of course)
"Then why do you not speak to people when they quit your religion?"
return of the dub (plus surprise guest)dealing with just one frisky, bright-eyed jehovah’s witness is a handful.one on one is manageable.
two jw’s is more like juggling chainsaws or french kissing alligators.i had a return visit the other day and now, the jw was returning the 2nd time, but with another dub.what would my strategy be?
that’s how the day was spent.
What's strange now to realize is how we were convinced to do cult recruiting while calling it preaching the good news. And when someone was not recruitable (wanted to reason and actually discuss things),we would write them off as not being drawn by Jehovah / bad heart / bird food.
We would write someone off as worthy of death for not responding to our canned sales pitch. Unbelievable.
shame to see our multi bilion property and media corporation asks for the last coins of an indian child, the coconuts from a sri lanka man and the last olive oil of a greek poor.. message to the poor is: no money, then your other belongings are belonging to jehova (read:jw.org).. at the end of the article i can click on a donate button and get a visa / mastercard sign om my screen.. follow the money: were are the property bilions?.
g..
All an attempt to guilt trip the flock into making donations. This is the exact thought they want the flock to have:
"If so-and-so can give olive oil, surely I can spare 20.00"
Governing Body has no shame.
august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.
Business first; Religion second.
you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “abba, father!”—rom.
those who have received this special invitation from god do not need another witness from any other source.
they do not need someone else to verify what has happened to them.
I agree sir82 that is awfully bold. Great example of how quick they clamp down the control. It's not about the bible. It's about them playing god.
when you were an active member in the jwland, did you expect to receive any kind of help from a brother/sister, but they did not help you?
when i was in the jwland, i expected and was my belief that any brother/sister will help you in time of need, distress or trouble, because we were part of a "lovely organization".
but countless of times when i needed and asked for help, nobody from the org helped me.
If this organization put helping people in need as any kind of priority, they would at the least have organized programs in place to facilitate that. They have none.
I would actually expect much more from a multi-billion dollar "Christian" religion. How about separate charitable corporations set up to help disadvantaged members of the community? Nope. Not even close.
I work at a "worldly" for-profit company, that does more for the community in one month, than the entire United States Branch of Jehovah's Witnesses will ever do in a half century. No exaggeration.
It's shameful, and a flashing red flag that this is not a religion but is a life-sucking cult. It's purpose is to benefit itself and those who run it.
while visiting a still in friend last week we had an interesting discussion on narcissism.
he made a very interesting comment that got me thinking about the above.
we were discussing the nature of celebrity and fame and he mentioned that he would find it very difficult to cope with constant adulation and praise.
We also wouldn't sit with arms folded as innocent people get raped, tortured, murdered, etc. We especially wouldn't do that if we had the ability to easily stop it.
If a stranger was walking down a city sidewalk buried in his phone texting and was about to walk full speed into an oncoming car, who of us would not instinctively stick our arm out to stop him?
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Unfortunately, God would not.
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We are not created in God's image. That is another Bible lie.
some of our newer forum members may not have had the chance to see the great videos from theramintrees.
enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewehb4qm1hg.
I had no idea they did one about witnesses. Very enlightening to hear their firsthand assessments. The "carrier pigeon" reference was eerily accurate. The reasoning book coming out was hilarious. They literally threw the book at them lol. Sad how simple-minded it all is. Without emotional manipulation and social threats, these religions would probably not exist.
i go to the local mcdonald's for a strong latte and raisin toast and i perched my feathers on a corner seat noticing a older european guy in a suit sitting by himself, so i move next to him and said it was warmer this chair.
i say you on business matters mate, he says ya but seemed only interested in his news paper.
i knew he was jw because jw assembly hall is not in a business district.
They retreat so quickly now. There is no defense of their lunacy. It's a social club run by abusive sociopaths. Reminds me of a typical family with an abusive parent. A child will defend the parent to a point and then eventually shut down on you if you keep asking questions.
a person may sometimes get swelling on his leg and may have limped a few times—but he is never called lame.
similarly, sometimes a person may slip into selfishness and use his free-will to his own harm or to the harm of others—but this does not make him a sinner because the ability to do the contrary (ability choose to commit virtuous act to any extent) too exists in him.
if one’s occasional sinning does not make him a sinner, sin of another person (such as first human couple) can never make others sinners.
Isn't it a sin to punish someone for something someone else did?
Billions sentenced to death for something Adam did has to be the biggest sIn of all time.