The only option left is to redefine suffering and death as a positive, I just never thought I would come across a REAL modern day Abraham, someone willing to tie an 'Isaac' down.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Who Made The Code?
by Perry ina few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.
this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.
as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!
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snare&racket
If you are talking about me prologos,
Not one of my pictures is from Dawkins, they are all from papers using google scholar.
You do realise I have studied biology (medicine) for 7 years and have never read Dawkins as part of my degree, this knowledge has nothing to do with Dawkins. This is stuff I do for my job, this isnt from a Dawkins book.
In fact I have said several imes over, the textbook "Biology" by Campell and Reece is what I used in my pre-university days (before I heard of Dawkins and was still a believer in god).
You really are a confused soul if you think this is all Dawkins, an animal behviour expert. I haven't discussed his speciality once.
As for "W hat can YOU say that is CONVINCING to prove that this majestic universe (that you picture in part) was not made, created it self, out of self-generated energy?"
The fact you think you can demand an answer and not accept "we dont know" speaks of your decided mind, approach to the issue. But ignoring that ...there are LOTS of theories that people are working on right now. That is the work being done at CERN. I am a medic, you are asking me to convince you how the universe began in a forum.
You are a fool! Go and by some books discussing the topic.
The LATEST book is "A universe from nothing" by prof Krauss who provides a quantum mechanic expliantion on the formation of the universe from three definitions of 'nothing'.
Been as you don't appreciate science or theoretical physics, the chances of you bothering to read it is about 0%. You just want to own the question, you dont WANT the answers.
WE DO !
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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snare&racket
It is quite simple.... inhumane, delusional, immoral thoughts are repugnant, be them from a JW platform or a religious fundementalist.
To dissect and hijack a thread for 70 pages, offering such reasoning as infanticide and genocide as being acceptable, then conclude with an explination of "ths spirit" told me, offers nothing to this forum or society in general, other than abhorrent, attention seeking white noise.
Atheism rules?...... I think every single christian and muslim friend I have in my life right now would find Tec's words disgraceful.
It isn't a competition, atheism v theism, think bigger. That comment just sounded like an attempt to jar Simon ( a believer) to remember whose theological side he is on. Irrelevant and a cheap shot. That kind of mindest won't see you finding any truth, there isn't sides, there is REALITY and WRONG.
We all talk these things over because it is healthy and productive. Talking to people with other beliefs is why we all come back for more. When people post WHY they believe or WHY they are an atheist, they offer the world their beliefs and reasoning behind it. Shake them, prove them wrong so that I can get nearer to the truth. But to satisfy one person's need to believe, this thread has deviated so far into delusion, it has become distasteful. To conclude it is as a result of atheist dominance is insincere and a lazy cop-out.
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Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law
by adamah inthere's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.
code ann.
166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.
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snare&racket
Valkyrie, I saw that one too.
Not even the husband, who by his own words keeps talking to his wife as if she is alive. This would mean that he has seen her as a patient - not a cadaver. On the one hand she's declared dead - but on the other hand she's spoken to as if she's alive.
probably the dumbest thing I have read on the internet..... No really.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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snare&racket
"from the spirit"
i know you don't belive that, if you did you would not try to defend your view as you do.....
Why come here and argue with people with EVIDENCE when you know ONLY YOU experiences this spirit. Your answers are literally mumbo jumbo, gobeldy gook. it's ok to express them, but you then dissect and argue with peoples answers where EVIDENCE and LOGIC is used. IF you truly believed in your spirit, you would know it is of no use to everyone else on this forum who has no ides what spirit you talk of.
You come and defend your views 'from the spirit' because they are simply your opinion, nothing more.
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podcast recommendations?
by Captain Blithering ina splendid morning to all you good chaps and chapesses in internetland!
i already listen to 'the human bible' , 'healingxjw' , 'infinite monkey cage' , 'doctor karl' ,(aussie dude, great science show) , but im on the lookout for more podcasts to subscribe to, science, bible, apologetics, comedy, you know the stuff...
any suggestions?
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snare&racket
Wow, we would get on captain, I have made a few threads on podcasts. I'm listening to one most of the time!
here is my list... (All on itunes)
Religious stuff
The Thinking Atheist (did a jw episode recently)
The Atheist Experience (fantastic)
The non prophets
The magic sandwich
fun stuff......
best by far is Opie and Anthony (also youtube them and add 'patrice o neal' or 'louis Ck' to find the BEST guests, then enjoy)
Joe Rogan
Ari Shaffir
Marc Coran WTF
Duncan Trussell
Ricky Gervais XFM and 'guide to' (years of hilarious karl pilkington)
Richard Herrings Leister Square Podcast
science stuff...
Infinite monkey cage
Answer me this
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Billy's Comments You Won't Hear at the 01-19-2014 WT Study (7 Shepherds, 8 Dukes)
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in16-20. we shall also have to raise up against him seven shepherds, yes, eight dukes of mankind.mic.
what is the most important thing that you can do now to prepare for any future attack on gods people?.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. .
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snare&racket
I hope they are not counting the millions of pounds in paedophile gag payouts as charitable acts.....
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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snare&racket
Adam,
dude seriously... PLEASE.... Just write your answer, we can read what 'x' said. Anyone not paying attention wont read your post anyway.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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snare&racket
" It would not have killed us if not for the fall."
Neanderthals, homo-erectus, dinosaurs,they all died enmasse before humans existed. The earth didnt all of the sudden become hostile 6000 yrs ago.
omg.... Tec, this is embarassing. Also you are getting this from the bible, how do you know this bit is correct but the bit where god commands genocide isnt.
exactly! Game over.
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Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law
by adamah inthere's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.
code ann.
166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.
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snare&racket
Abortion?
If a pregnant woman dies, it is not an abortion. What a bizzare thing to say. Why are you guessing what the legal basis is, the hospital has already quoted the legal stance they have used and it is flawed.