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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

  1. social
  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

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  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  Adam, sir, with respect... I sincerely don't have the energy to read your replies.

  I sincerely don't.

  You talk as if an authority on EVERTHING.
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  Could i possily be one of the sealed?

  by msconcerned in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i went to the meeting last night, (with the start of a beard) and going throught he book study i had a thought.

  god our "heavenly father" wants us to have a personal relationship with him because he is love.

  well my brain disconnected from this thinking because if the bible was "written primarily for the anointed" and the benefits in the bible can only be mine because of "association" with the anointed, then i can never have a personal relationship with god or jesus.

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  Truly sealed.....
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  WT for This Sunday...1/26/2014..Were they still in Egypt?

  by Legacy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  12:1:jehovah now said to moses and aaron in the land of egypt: .

  this is from this weeks wt..obey jehovahs shepherds....(no matter what).

  i added that part.. .

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  Then moses faked a miracle..... and tried to get the followers to worship him....
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  May I add something that just came to me in thought.....

  The only premise that christians can attempt to pursue, is the one Tec decided to grasp.

  To offer that we are not intelligent enough to know gods purpose and that death may not be a bad thing, it may from the perspective of a deity be a good thing, for an over all benefit.

  What did god do to people he didn't like?

  What did god do to people that did not obey?

  What did god do to those that broke his laws?

  He..... KILLED them. God did not look down on the flood and pour water on babies, children and all but 8 of mankind out of LOVE, it was in anger and as a PUNISHMENT.

  So even the bible, communicating the activity, words and thoughts of god makes clear that death is not just a BAD thing, but a PUNISHMENT.

  If these people were dying, then shooting to heaven, or dying and going somewhere nice, it would not be a punishment!

  The bible is not ambigous about death.

  Death is the punishment for inherited sin, a ridiculous notion, but this is your belief not mine.

  So any death, be it punishment from god, be it cancer or be it in a Tsunami, according to the bible the concept of death is a design from god, a punishment for the breaking of his rules in a garden.

  Accept that your god is evil by the standards of humans in 2014, but you have decided to worship him anyway. That is the only honest answer.

  To say otherwise is blasphemy and to promote a message not in the bible.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

  1. social
  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  Hamsterbait, they had no legal right to put the dead mother on life support.

  As for the consequences of theire actions now, it is new territory. I imagine it was not doctors but lawyers/managers who decided to use life support on a dead person, a doctor knows the futility of this.

  As for what is next, likely they will conclude that the fetus is not viable and turn the machine off, I imagine.

  The alternative it to maintain the mal-development until the fetus eventually dies. Under what circumstances is an estimation only.

  I imagine the legal issue is that of the original desicion. It would not be illegal to turn the machine off now with consent from family and with a doctors opinion of best interest for the fetus.
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  I could do with some help please?

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the elder i studied with called round last wednesday.

  i didn't tell him i'd lost my faith, i just said there are a number of reasons i wouldn't be able to return to either my studies or the meetings.

  he asked me whar 2 or 3 of my reasons are so we could discuss them.. my reply: 1 i think all christians should partake of the bread and wine.

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  thedog1 ... we all have the option to walk away and not promote dangerous , inhumane teachings.

  It takes time and we should support those in that process. But for the the elder who knows its B.S. and hod his nose as he feds it to other people's loved ones, I am sure many struggle to find empathy for.

  They make it hard to leave, but it is no holiday staying in. Also this tent aint going down until people start leaving. If you love your family, what is the BEST thing you can do for them?

  Not everyone here are disfellowshipped adulterers (not that it matters to me, but to some it may) but some of us simply stood up and faced the lions, then walked away, conscience clean but with the inevitable consequences.

  It is do-able. Since going I have helped many to leave. I have NO regrets at all, I would do it this way everytime.
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  I could do with some help please?

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the elder i studied with called round last wednesday.

  i didn't tell him i'd lost my faith, i just said there are a number of reasons i wouldn't be able to return to either my studies or the meetings.

  he asked me whar 2 or 3 of my reasons are so we could discuss them.. my reply: 1 i think all christians should partake of the bread and wine.

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  One more for you......

  Ask him if he agrees in the "new light " doctrine.

  Ask him if he thinks god would use people that said something would happen or come true and then didn't, like in 1914, 1919 or 1975 or where it was that said armageddon would come before the 1914 generation would pass away? Or in 1989 that the ministry would be completed before the year 2000

  ( The January 1, 1989 Watchtower "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.)

  Wait for an answer, he will make excuses and get giddy over the new teachings.

  Ask, but do you think god would use people that said things that didnt end up coming about, yes or no?

  When he says yes...

  Ask him to open his bible to Deuteronomy 18 verses 20, 21, 22

  ‘If any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that I did not command him to speak or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die.+ 21 However, you may say in your heart: “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” 22 When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.’

  Ok so now the animal is wounded, he will try to claim this is non applicable, it is about prophets. Have these print outs ready.

  "This was the test - the coming down of fire; and the fulfillment exactly on time has proved that Pastor Russell was one of God's great reformers and prophets." Watchtower 1919 Oct 1 p.297

  IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"
  These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? ... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian witnesses. ... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel's work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the "prophet" commissioned by Jehovah to declare the good news of God's Messianic kingdom and to give warning to Christendom." Watchtower 1972 Apr 1 pp.197-199 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them'

  If he says the claims they made were not prophecies quote this...

  "Some believed that the earth would end on October 21, 2011. It did not. Thus, the prophecy of U.S. radio broadcaster Harold Camping rang hollow. He predicted that Judgement Day would come on May 21, 2011 …" Watchtower 2012 Feb 1 p.25

  You can't beat a little drama. so at the end...

  " Do you deny that they called themselves prophets, that they made predictions and that they were wrong and that the bible said quite clearly the way to identify a fals prophet is to look for ones who make false predictions. It also said to stone them, but I'm a nice guy, so instead I will offer you a biscuit."
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  The Biggest Fear From The Watchtower Organization Is ???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the organization is worried most about how jws will stay loyal to their families even as it rejects the admonition of the gb and elders..

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  bigmac, they were still sending one magazine to share between one cong LONG after we had it free....I know, I sent them..... the money aint going to Africa lol
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  Cofty did not ask for answers, he spoke about his serendipitous meeting with a previous pastor ten years on....

  If you think this compares to you being confused by a shape, then you are either limited in cognition or conscience.

  Either way, it is boring and a waste of more pages. Still no answrs Caliber, just endless distraction from the issue. Tsunami, suffering, dead children, dead people, mass destruction and a loving all powerful all knowing, all forgiving, all merciful space man.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  This is so telling...

  "Now explain in one simple sentence what mobius strip means to you and why It gives me mental confusion ?"

  Now Explain... you expect much and offer little, also where are your manners

  in one simple sentence...... why this constraint? Is it ego, is it bias or is it control?

  what mobius strip means to you..... why do you think they, you , humans are that important.. its a shape and we are dust in the universe

  and why it gives me mental confusion........ No Comment.