Cofty.... you are totally pushing for the 100 ha ha ha..
the horse is truly flogged and passed on quite some time ago... But I'm behind ya 100% chief!
Come.on christian people, just two more pages of silly illustrations....
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Top evolution researchers agree: There is A Creator! The Watchtower is Right!
by mariu inokay, it's just one scientist: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201404/frederic-dumoulin-interview/.
but he's a very eminent one!.
for more than a decade, frederic dumoulin has worked in the field of pharmaceutical research ... studied the effects of medications and toxins on living creatures ... such design simply could not have evolved.
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washing the beakers...... a hypothesis came to me...what if a god did it all?
The irony is just yummy. How does he think it is relevant to test drugs on ANIMALS in preparation for their use on HUMANS?
They trace the evolution of the enzymes/proteins/cells they are targeting and test them on a relevant animal. The results have meaning for humans because of our evolutionary relationship.
Antibiotic resistence in evolving viruses and bacteria is THE major issue in pharmacology and medicine right now and yet he is non the wiser.
Lab tech/assistant is literally a caretaker role. Preparing, washing, passing equipment to the qualified or trainee scientist. It is a low pay role that requires NO scientific education or understanding.
The fact the JW's are quoting him says plenty, but there are people in senior positions in science, very few in number, who refute the evidence of their colleagues and choose to deny evolution. I was desperate to meet one and I eventually interviewed one for a paper I wrote on evolution. He contributes to a soon to be published textbook for christians,on biology, made by him and some well known christian texas scientists. When he said who he was working with it was an eye opener to how small this group is.
He was the only tutor (endocrinologist) in our faculty that was anti-evolution. I spent hours talking to him, I had scientific papers to show him and I swear all he did was quote 'evidence' he had seen in a video made by creationist scientists. This guy was supposed to be a scientist! When I asked why he refuted evolution he said "there is a rock face in devon where there is a layer that is unexpectedly layered." This guy is a hormone expert, and this was his zinger. I asked whether not being an expert in geology, this is likely an anomaly they are yet to understand or do and you have not been informed. He agreed. Then he told me there was an anaomaly in squirrel developemnt But couldnt remmebr the exact detail. Then there was girrafes, he quoted me a paper from the 70's that incorrectly said girrafes evolved long necks for food, we now think it was for male domination, they fight with their necks. He repeatedly said the girrafe neck paper was wrong and I repeatedly said it has been redacted and updated...and that was it. He told me that his mother reported that one day as a kid, when he was washing the car, he came in singing a hymn and saying he had seen Jesus. He said he didn't remember, but believed her and now he is saved. My last question was "would you ever accept your colleagues research results over the bible if they contradicted the bible?" He said "no". I recorded the interview, but the next day he asked,very formally, that I delete the recording and refused permission for me to use anything he said In my paper.
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Uk bethel "university campus but nicer"
by snare&racket innew essex bethel plans include.... "its accommodation, predominantly for young members, would resemble a university campus but "nicer".
erghhhh..... don't become a lawyer or an engineer, a doctor or a nurse or a teacher.... come spend 3 years working for us at our factory for free.
look we have wifi...(no porn!).
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Thats a shame, she would have loved uni, its great.
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Cancer Genome and what it means ;-)
by Jon Preston inthis is from science daily...... genome of longest-living cancer: 11,000-year-old living dog cancer reveals its origin, evolutionjan.
23, 2014 a cancer normally lives and dies with a person, however this is not the case with a sexually transmitted cancer in dogs.
in a study published in science, researchers have described the genome and evolution of this cancer that has continued living within the dog population for the past 11,000 years.. scientists have sequenced the genome of the world's oldest continuously surviving cancer, a transmissible genital cancer that affects dogs.
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Why did you post that? It is just a patent for a biological delivery mechanism of treatments.
back to the cancer chat....
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the new jw bible and the verses they removed
by Crazyguy ini noticed they removed several important ones like mark 16:9-20 acts 8:37 and romans 16:24, so how does one find out if there is any relevance to them removing these verses and others.
they of course say these verses were not found in the oldest manuscripts so how can we see if they are correct or lying??
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Do your research and you will see that MANY verses are not in the old manuscripts. Yet they have stayed.
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Michelangelo has the key to understand the Bible!
by abiather inwatch tower released the revised translation of the bible in october, 2013. this is not something new!
see what has been happening in the last 20 centuries!
each christian sect does not trust the translations of others, hence wants one of their own.
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Cultttttt.........
Also no scientific ability, knowledge or understanding.
I thought you left already
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Cancer Genome and what it means ;-)
by Jon Preston inthis is from science daily...... genome of longest-living cancer: 11,000-year-old living dog cancer reveals its origin, evolutionjan.
23, 2014 a cancer normally lives and dies with a person, however this is not the case with a sexually transmitted cancer in dogs.
in a study published in science, researchers have described the genome and evolution of this cancer that has continued living within the dog population for the past 11,000 years.. scientists have sequenced the genome of the world's oldest continuously surviving cancer, a transmissible genital cancer that affects dogs.
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Amazing thanks,
Cancers have the means to nourish themselves by releasing angiogenesis hormones, promoting new blood vessels to develop between the host and the cancer. This is the case in all cancers that grow.
I imagine this is an important process in a transferable cancer between dogs. Developing a source for nutrition and cellular respiration as quickly as possible is essential to this canine cancer I am sure. It must have refined those neovascular mechanisms somewhat.
I would be focusing on that mechanism and looking for chinks in the chain or something that labels these processes as unique so we can screen for them for early diagnosis or localising neoplasia, if they are also found in humans.
Great post Jon x
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Is The Governing Body Over Jehovah's Witnesses A Bunch Of Arrogant Old Retirees Considering After All That They Claim To Be Christ's Right Hand Man Directing His Dad's Organization On Earth?
by frankiespeakin inthese guys believe that they are running and directing "god's organization" and it is all based on some flimsy parable interpetation about a master who left a slave in charge while he went away with the outcome uncertain upon his return.
not a very solid case to be pointedly honest.
jesus would have made a better choice of donald trump to run his father's business/watchtower corporation, he's less arrogant and doesn't discourage higher education, and plastic children's toys are not a major concern of his.. what is arrogance?.
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It's true and higly relevant...... JW's keep nice secular books under their coffe table, or next to their bed. Mags.... Poop room.
The mags go next to the toilet so you can read 'watching the world' as you drop the kids off at the pool.
The Awake is the only possible chance of a half interesting read, if there is no decent articles as usual, watching the world was a 5 min glance of stolen stories from NATURE, POPULAR MECHANICS, READERS DIGEST. Due to the printing schedule, they were all months behind the articles they were taken from. All that work, writing and printing and that was it.....
WT books NEVER leave the bookshelf, they sit there gathering old light, erm I meant dust. They sre ugly, cheap books that are valueless, souless and do nothing but sell, sell, sell, sell the authority of 8 men. That isnt spiritual, that isnt nourishing, its bland and dangerous.
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Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law
by adamah inthere's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.
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166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.
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Lisa, as a trainee doctor I can assure you, the issue isnt the mothers consent. She had died, she couldn't say snything. She was dead, and they wrongly gave a dead body LIFE SUPPORT. This is nonsensical, they are even refusing to classify her as dead as they realise what they have done. All the while, a fetus is slowly developing and malforming inside a dead woman. These results were always going to happen.
as for FHN comments, I appreciate your hope, but I assure you it is not realistic.This prolonged suffering was immoral. Pregnant women have died for as long as we have had pregnant women, this is the first time anyone has ever misguidedly, attempted to maintain a fetus in a dead woman. The predictable consequences to the fetus are the exact reasons why. Also hydrocephalus insult to a fetus, alongside cardiac, limb and insurmountable malformations are NO COMPARISON to a healthy child with hydrocephalus.
When the fetus does, as likely die, sometime after nature would have ordained, can the pro-life/religious please not state something along the lines of 'at least we tried'. It was not our wife to try it on, it was not our unborn baby to experiment with. The defence in ignorance began as 'how do you know the baby is damaged' to 'its not that damaged that much' to 'damaged babies can be happy too'.... let's stop here and not sink any lower, please.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Humans invented gods to sway the universe in their favour in exchange for sacrifices, children for rain, animals for fertility, money for thetan exorcism...
Now the universe is understood more, we recognise there is no control, no sway, no influence, no random acts of SUPERNATURAL intervention.
Yet people want to hold onto the possibility of the hand of god, whilst stammering through an explination of it being invisible to humankind.
What are they getting out of believing in a god that won't save you from the water if he could?
That is no personal relationship, that is no friend, that is CERTAINLY no father.
Worse than this YOU KNOW that he actually willfully drowned his children in anger according to the bible.
What sickens me most is the scripture where it states, how wrong would it be for a father to say no to his child asking for bread? What about praying that your family don't drown on a new years holiday on a beach? Or trapped in a car, seat belted in? These verses are not evident at all, as again YOU KNOW. We have all been Jw's we have all spent decades with unanswered begging for bread.
Seriously people. This invention does not deserve your loyalty, time, attention, devotion or love. It doesn't deserve it over the love and affection of your children. Parent will die loyal the the god of the bible, nose deep in her bible, whilst they forgoe their pained ageing children. For a god hat would drown his own children. I don't be;oieve any god exists at all. But if you STILL think one does, SHOULD you worship a god like this? Just because he says you should? I would die fighting such a human dictator, being loyal not to a dictator but to higher morality in defence of the value of human life.
For those that think you have to worship a god you believe exists, because he made you. Does his title as inventor and builder give him the right to such immoral activity, even if you believe it does as many do, are you REALLY going to get on your knees and bow to such a dictator?
Go ahead. I won't anymore.