Posts by snare&racket

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Atheism is a Belief System

by seekchristonly in

is atheism a belief system.

after all the atheist believes there is no god .so if that's the case then an atheist if a person of faith.

they have faith in the fact there is no god.

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Is therfore not believing in unicorns a belief system?

I am serious, please answer this .

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this may be the wrong area for this but here goes.. if you went to a bank and told them " i don't have an account with you, i never will have an account with you and i will tell people you are a terrible bank" then ask not for a loan from them, but a gift of a lot of money, how do you think they would respond?.

yet, witnesses now have the the ability to take blood fractions from the blood bank without ever contributing to the blood bank.

there is a process that the blood bank takes just the plasma from a donor to be used for fractions only.

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The JW that gave the talk on fractions is my old local area didn't know fractions came from blood donations but assumed they were 'made in a lab'.

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Just seen this about the charity commission in the UK

by ItsMyLife in

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-church-allowed-convicted-3703121.

i hope this is just the tip of the iceberg and they continue to investigate..

snare&racket

Can somone please send the charity comission a reference to handling of child abuse in the elders book, when the abuser denies they did it,

I believe it was paragraph 39, but I don't remember the page of the manual. I don't have access to one. This will help prove it is,not a local, isolated incident.

The elders manual SAYS to being the abuser and the abused to the same room to find out what happened!!!

How shameful!

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Science proves there is a God

by seekchristonly in

fusion with god natural .

in the cosmos universe or whatever.

all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.

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I know scientists that believe in god, but they no longer hold the bible as 100% true or literal.

Nobody says science has to lead to atheism, but for many it has as the religious texts conflict with science. If one is able to square that away and maintain their beliefs/faith great! But some can't.

As for skepticism, I personally feel, one can't be truly skeptical and remain a believer in magic and miracles. But that is just my opinion.

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What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!

by megaflower in

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"we should be mindful".

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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"The Truth"

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Science proves there is a God

by seekchristonly in

fusion with god natural .

in the cosmos universe or whatever.

all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.

snare&racket

SEEK

sorry, you seem to be missing my reply....

Can you give ONE example of a scientific theory with no evidence, as you claimed existed please?

Or is this one of the things you now disagree with yourself,,because it is quite a big mistake to make. If I had thought this, I too would question science. Bit of course however you came to this conclusion, it isn't the case.

As ridiculous as such a thread is, JW lurkers and young JW's will be reading it, our replies and explinations need to keep that in mind.

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I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......

by TTATTelder in

one of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.

i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).

when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.

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Highly organised and decent people...... name me one religion that isn't! I seriously reccomend you go meet some muslims in a mosque, I guarantee you won't leave without offers of dinner or a cup of tea somewhere. Evangelicals are lovely people, my pal is doing charity work most nights somewhere in the city. A religion without these charachteristics is not going to survive...

As for high moral standards, you are basing that on leaving an assembly and seeing people in jeans with stubble and willing to say the F-word, that has nothing to do with morals. It is about being real and grown up.

The Watchtower are stuck in a bizzare 1950's utopian mindset. No swearing and skirts below the knee! Clean shaven and suits have nothing to do with morals or standards, it is more corporate than anything!! Again, a 50's mindset, hence the sexism so prevelant in the JW's.

The funny thing is, when you leave long enough and see pictures of myriads of JW's in cheap suits (we are all poor) walking outside an arena, they just look bizzare, crazy even and very, very cultish. I don't look at those pictures with fondness now, they look very strange, especially seeing kids in suits and dresses.

It is poignant for you to think of how the WT has you equating morals with shaving, swearing and wearing a suit. Politicians, bankers, business men and (american) religious leaders fit your appearance bill....but we all know it is nothing more than a thin venere.

Also, be honest with yourself, how moral really are the JW's? How many don't swear playing football? How many JW youth get smashed drunk in a club and have oral sex on the weekends, dressed like anyone else out that night? If you think 'none' you are far from reality! How many defend slavery and genocide in the bible? How many would let their children die without blood? How many agree that child rape/abuse is not an essential crime to report to the police unless leagally obliged? How many stand by the two witness rule? How many would shun their own children if the child decides they just don't believe it anymore? How many marriages hide violence, alcohol addiction and emotional abuse? How many JW's go door to door with a message that everyone elses religion is false, yet won't examine critisism of WT activity? How many JW's defend a faith that was fined 30 million dollars for allowing continued child abuse of a young girl? How many JW's pray for the destruction of most of humanity in order that they can take the dead persons land, build a cabin and stroke a lion........

Morals is not about suits and ties and saying 'sugar' instead of 'shit'.

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Farewell from Confused and Alone

by confusedandalone in

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i use to hate when people who made goodbye posts on message boards.

why would they think that just because you no longer post on a chevy truck forum or a los angeles lakers forum the world would crumble around those still left there.

this place is definitely different.

snare&racket

all the best pal x

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Evidence of Ocean of Water in or under Earth's Mantle.... Will people now state this to be proof of the Noah Account?

by adjusted knowledge in

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"the transition zone can hold a lot of water, and could potentially have the same amount of h2o [water] as all the world's ocean.".

http://news.yahoo.com/found-hidden-ocean-locked-deep-earths-mantle-181204475.html.

i figured when people read this that there will be those claiming proof of the flood story.

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So the flood happened when exactly? All but 8 survivors on earth at 4000 b.c. right?........right?

Wouldn't this be evident SOMEHWERE in the history of civilisation? No?

Sure every people has stories of floods.....you know why? Floods exist! That is different to saying every people has a story of a GLOBAL flood.

Also people live on tectonic fault lines, that's where civilisations settled, it is where water flows due to the geography, that is where the soil is good because of the water, land is green because of the soil, animals eat and drink there because of the vegetation and water... that is also naturally where humans headed. Fault lines are prone to change, including...flooding. so sure every people has stories of floods, we always will have and always will see flood stories... the news doesn't go more than a month without a huge flood somewhere on earth.

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JW refuses to provide wedding stationery to Gay couple

by KateWild in

i was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.

i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.

i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.

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When the bible says death for men lying with men, it is refrering to gay people, when the bible says two men will be in one bed and one will be saved, they are just having a sleepover surely......back then that was customary, like slavery...the nice kind...and gentle infanticide....

(rebel8, no sarcasm pointed at you, the point I am making is not directed at your reply specifically)

I don't want to start a debate on these veses, in honesty I don't hold any truth, value or interest in them. I am simply pointing out the folly of anyone attempting to intepret anything from 2000 year old scrolls from the Jewish desert tribes and applying them to modern day Britain.