Sounds clamtastic..... Wish I'd never left now! a
hhhhhh wait, no, no I am still glad I left. My mistake!
i carried out my monthly "cover" visit to the k.h.
tonight.
as previously discussed on this forum, the clam meeting is just a rehashed, recycled, reshuffled, & rebranded ministry school and service meeting.
Sounds clamtastic..... Wish I'd never left now! a
hhhhhh wait, no, no I am still glad I left. My mistake!
johnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.
they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .
"And you will know them by the love they have amongst themselves......"
now pack your bags......
i hope everyone here is well and staying strong x .
another year, another year with no armageddon.. i have noticed the jw pals and family become more frenzied of late, small things in the news wind them up and make them more hysterical than ever.
the events in paris were horrendous, but to a jw they mean the end is near...........why wasn't it near when chechnya was in the shit?
I hope everyone here is well and staying strong X
Another year, another year with no Armageddon.
I have noticed the JW pals and family become more frenzied of late, small things in the news wind them up and make them more hysterical than ever. The events in Paris were horrendous, but to a JW they mean the end is near...........why wasn't it near when Chechnya was in the shit? Or Kosovo? Or Tibet? Such small minded, localised thinking that sums up nicely the danger of being uninterested in information and world events. An old JW pal of mine attempted to highlight the events in Paris (in case I missed them?) in the context of the world going to hell.... I brought up Ghengis Khan raping, pillaging, head spiking and murdering his way across the world and how it was neither new or prophetic, we went on to talk about cars.....
I was fortunate enough to bump into two pioneers in the high street in Cardiff. They were very grumpy and found my friendly open nature very threatening, they told me they were in a Chinese congregation here. I asked how it was going? Terrible they said! I asked if it was likely because of the Internet and access to information..."Maybe. But we think it is because they have all become materialistic now!" was the answer. I asked them if they were not happy to see hundreds of millions of people now have access to the same way of life we have enjoyed for decades? Keep in mind they were well dressed, capitalist to the end without realising it, true ....consumers. They just shrugged.
So another year goes by, the world changes, the Watchtower and JW's are more defensive, more fanatical than ever. It is almost like, as the world, the REAL world, holds up a mirror for them to see just who they are and how they are behaving, their answer is to retreat into a more bizarre stance. They wear the coat of "odd ball" with open pride now. It really is quite a different religion and different attitude to what I grew up with. Far more bizarre and strange......almost creepy.
But enough about my insignificant thoughts and observations, I hope everyone here is ok. I have not been here very often at all. I came to look at the RC findings and they are very telling.
i also want to wish and hope everyone has an awesome Christmas. If you have kids and are wondering whether this is they year to have that first Xmas or not...... JUST DO IT! Every Christmas lost is lost forever, that's a year with your kid you can't get back. As a JW kid who left and grew up, trust me, they all count.
To everyone who is having Xmas, have an awesome time, get the dec's up, get the lights up, get the prezzies out! Go mad!
The people here are some of the bravest, smartest, strongest and ironically funniest, I have met. Be proud of who you are, what you have been through and what you survived this Christmas !
Have an awesome holiday season xxxx
snare X
will just post the general findings by counsel for the commission (angus stewart) - case specific ones are prior to them.
in short, absolutely damning.. not been through every submission myself yet.
available for download here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.aspx.
In 2015, everybody has access to largely, as much information as they want. I am sorry but I have little to no sympathy for anyone associated with this organisation anymore. Ignorance is no longer an excuse. World governments have found the individual leaders disinterested in the abuse of children within. World governments have found their practices dangerous, cold and highly controlling.
Bleat on about how this is Satan speaking through his governments sll you want, but to believe that you have to ignore the child abuse we all heard about, knew about, and find shameful. You have to ignore the distant, cold and controlling nature of the hierarchy within this belief system. To question is too much as a JW, worse, to merely doubt their right to power in the governing body, is a thought crime.
if you remain, or worse, keep your children within this debacle of ignorant and dangerous doctrine, I really have no sympathy left for you, it is all for your children whom you are mentally, psychologically and physically endangering.
The Watchtower Organisation.....The Jehovah's Witnesses......JW ORG.........are all clearly and now evidently recognised as a dangerous places to be.
Snare
via /r/exjw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.
your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!
i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.
revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.
I was apparently.... a gay ....apostate ......that was bitter with God.
Exciting stuff !!!!!
Reality was I didn't believe it anymore and went to university. My degree gave me some basic anatomy knowledge, for which I came to the conclusion.... I like women.
(Yet to find a man sexually attractive, but been as they are gods spokesman on earth, I have some ass-less chaps ready!)
god says we can't break confidentiality, but we are looking forward to you forcing us to break gods law with mandatory reporting...... it doesn't make sense mr jackson, jw's have already testified your doctrine of gods law overruling that of mans.
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shame on you and your disgraceful child abuse cover up..
God says we can't break confidentiality, but we are looking forward to you forcing us to break gods law with mandatory reporting.....
It doesn't make sense Mr Jackson, JW's have already testified your doctrine of gods law overruling that of mans.
Shame on you and your disgraceful child abuse cover up.
one of the contributing factors to me leaving was the realisation we were being led by idiots.
bethel life reinforced that, middle aged ego's trying to suck up to brooklyn.
ray franz book was a final nail for me, because he described the same incompetence along with the same ego's.
There is no way I could be a JW now and not look at them and see the sham. It is so transparent.
These are men then want to be adored. The followers want security, health, a nice home and may miss dead loved ones. The leaders simply promise it and the game begins.....
one of the contributing factors to me leaving was the realisation we were being led by idiots.
bethel life reinforced that, middle aged ego's trying to suck up to brooklyn.
ray franz book was a final nail for me, because he described the same incompetence along with the same ego's.
One of the contributing factors to me leaving was the realisation we were being led by idiots. Bethel life reinforced that, middle aged ego's trying to suck up to Brooklyn. Why would it be any different there? Ray Franz book was a final nail for me, because he described the same incompetence along with the same ego's. The GB were described as untruthful and ill equipped.
The RC is making evident just how inexperienced and ..... this will sound mean, but.... uneducated, these leaders and 'teachers' are. They couldn't even keep up with the RC questions and points, constantly getting themselves lost in the defence of the GB.
The RC had the goal of protecting and representing damaged children so as to learn from it, these JW men have arrived to do battle ...and left found wanting.
Between the RC and JW broadcasting, I can't help but believe that they are showing the world their achilles heel. These men are not mysterious, godly men, with superhuman knowledge and spiritual experience.... they are in fact ...bumbling fools following the protocol in a flawed elders/branch book.
As for the GB such as AM 3rd, they have come across as draconian, backward , bullies. None of them are a leader you would vote for, they are obviously there from ego, ambition and Watchtower politics.
Do you find yourself surprised and amazed that we once held them in such high regard? Do you think their mistake of enjoying the limelight will be there own downfall?
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
My great uncle worked in Australia on the audio transfer from the lander to earth, whilst the USA was facing away from the moon. He listened in to the mission live.
i discussed it with him, I said I struggled to believe a live video transmission from the moon back then. After discussing it for some time we came to a mutual maybe that they got there but the video footage was not live.
Also I think SOME of the photos are doctored for PR, if not some being totally faked. The flag waving is not abnormal, the flag has a rod running through the top of it, without gravity it would move for longer not a shorter time.