Posts by snare&racket

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PREZ JOKES

by SolidSender in

here's some bumper stickers recently spotted:.

honk!

if you had sex with the president.

snare&racket

Best prez joke I saw............. Trump

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heard about a congregation recently that had a local needs talk regarding going to the elders if any wrongdoing had happened, or if you knew of someone involved.. mostly they were concerned with over-indulging in alcohol, but the elder emphasized "the need to get help from elders, or your spirituality would be harmed".

(words to that effect).

so now there's brothers and sisters running to see these guys, and likely over stuff that happened maybe years ago.. funny thing is the brother telling me about it said there's been several meetings now where people's names are read from the platform, and it looks like it'll be going on for a while.. i think if your conscience was bothering you, you would be better off being catholic, at least your only confessing to one person instead of being shamed in front of eveyone..

snare&racket

Adults being told off by other adults for doing things that all adults and most teens do weekly..

"Oh the local window cleaner is here to tell me I drink too much and shouldn't own a copy of Robocop."

I forget how pathetic the JW's are

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Animals not meant to eat meat

by Carl in

jw don't believe in evolution .

how come animals teeth are designed to chew meat?

sharks for instance have razor sharp pointy teeth these are not to eat vegetation .

snare&racket

The teeth are a tiny part of the issue. From their mouth to their butt everything has evolved to consume meat. The stomach, the acid levels, the enzymes, the pancreas, the intestines, the cells, all the bio-chemistry.....

Animals have evolved to procreate and therefore survive in a certain environment. Everything about an animal, is focused on survival and eating is a big part of it. A lion has muscles to run.,chase, pounce, wrestle, hold down. Teeth to tear, cut, bleed, sever and chew. Even it's tongue is covered in hairs so that one lick devours layers of flesh. None of these things are useful for cucumbers...

All these things make an animal what it is, it's ridiculous to claim it once consumed another type of food. It would make it a totally different animal, it would look, live, behave, act like a totally different animal.

It's a ridiculous and ignorant idea,

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

snare&racket

Lack of transitional forms? Have you read up any scientific literature on evolution? This is a very basic misconception, for EVERY fossil is a transitional fossil.

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The Elders want to meet with me and the hubby... Lol lol lol

by Sevan in

jw
friends

so the elders called wanting to meet with me and my husband.

most likely because i told a concerned jw friend of mine that i really care about that i wasn't coming back and a couple of the issues i had.

i didn't bring up any so-called "apostate" information, just told her about the australian royal commission and that there are a lot of unscriptural teachings and that the gb apply scriptures that are about jehovah and jesus to themselves, which is idolatry.

snare&racket

Ahhh don't worry I sincerely hadn't even noticed the like/dislike addition

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

snare&racket

The only reason I commented on this thread, is the danger that a new member, a new lurker came and saw that post title and without the means to fact check it was misled.

Kate this is VERY dangerous.

I am 10years into medical training and I do not have the authority to make scientific conclusions, never mind a world changing conclusion that there is a deity driving evolution! You do not have anywhere near the education to state that. That aside, nobody does because there is NO evidence or reason to state it.

The danger of taking the lead Kate, is that some may follow. That's why scientists dedicate their life to maybe one theory they have, because if they misled science they would waste their life. You can't do half a chemistry course and then make the biggest conclusion in chemistry EVER made and post it on a religious forum as if you are an authority. It's not right.

We are pals Kate, this isn't personal. But let's be frank. You are out of your depth scientifically and you really don't have sufficient training, education or knowledge to discuss this or make these conclusions, decisions.

Let's be honest. You believe in God and you want to find a reason to believe. That's the truth and that's ok. But it puts your opening post and title thread in a very different perspective and let's be honest, you haven't found that reason to believe here in chemistry. Doesn't mean you won't. Had you, people would follow you to belief and also you would have just proven a deity with science.. Kate you'd be famous with a Nobel prize. So let's gently drift back down to reality, to facts and science.

You believe, you have faith, as assured expectation of things 'hoped' for. This can't be mixed with science unles you have hard facts. You can't fill in the inevitable gaps in human knowledge with....a Judeo-Christian deity, which what a coincidence.... Is your deity.

Kate, you left a high control group where a bunch of uneducated men made conclusions on the bible, on world history, on the very mind of a god they decided existed..... They have the blood and years of every human that followed them at their feet.

This is why people get angry at threads such as this. You still haven't realised the seriousness of your provocative title and the consequences of just one person ....just one visitor....assuming you had the authority to say what you said! You don't.

Maybe you should have started by admitting you do not have any significant qualifications in chemistry (you have admitted you didn't complete your course, of the 15+ people I know that did part of a degree, none claim any expertise or connection to that speciality..... Science is so detailed now....a degree is just an introduction to a science nowadays. I guarantee your Starbucks barista has a degree in chemistry! Mine did and my taxi driver had a degree in physics! He ran his own lab at one point!)

Then maybe made clear it was your religious belief alone.

If you believe in a god because of outdated chemistry questions long ago answered and proven, then can we assume that your belief in God is now gone? That evolution is not guided? We await your post.......

Until then, look again at what you have claimed when someone asked you..... Next time admit exactly what qualifications you have buddy X

"I conclude evolution is guided"

Your qualifications are way above mine so I'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

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Noah's ark once again. I hate beating a dead horse, but.

by James Mixon in

the altitude problem.

mt.

everest today is 29042 feet high and i know some will say it.

snare&racket

I can't believe adults are debating whether the ark was real or not. Seriously!

This is so sad and says much about belief and reality.

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The Elders want to meet with me and the hubby... Lol lol lol

by Sevan in

jw
friends

so the elders called wanting to meet with me and my husband.

most likely because i told a concerned jw friend of mine that i really care about that i wasn't coming back and a couple of the issues i had.

i didn't bring up any so-called "apostate" information, just told her about the australian royal commission and that there are a lot of unscriptural teachings and that the gb apply scriptures that are about jehovah and jesus to themselves, which is idolatry.

snare&racket

No matter how much you get tempted.... Do not go. It is a game. They own the rules, you can't win. They want to cut off your family and friends and ALL you have to do is turn up.

Just tell them your spirituality is personal and you don't wish to talk about it with anyone else right now.

Don't be tempted by nice, friendly, non-threatening requests to meet. They can give you spiritual help over a phone or via a letter or on their own, an individual, in your home.

Whatever they ask you, say you would prefer not to say as its personal. This way you keep your family/friends and it doesn't make things difficult... WELCOME TO OUR RULEBOOK 😏

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Brother & Sister-in-Law Return to Kingdom Hall After Two Decades, Quickly Get Stumbled

by TMS in

it was a mild surprise, learning that a brother and sister-in-law had began re-associating with jehovah's witnesses after at least 25 years of being away.

the couple, of hispanic ethnicity, are in their early 60's, with their five children all grown and independent.

the family had been considered nominal jws, infrequently attending meetings, rarely in field service, but using the annual convention as their family vacation.

snare&racket

Only in a cult is menial work a privelage .....

up is down and down is up...

come join the sea-org for a billion years!

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Hello from the other side

by Theburstbubble in

well it's been 18 months since i left the witnesses.

my goodness what can i say?

well let's start from the beginning.... 1) i am happy, yes i am (i know im not meant to be as the jw's would like to believe).

snare&racket

Awesome thread!

I'm properly 10 years out in August.

Never been happier. I'm financially secure. I'm in a relationship. I'm a doctor. I am emotionally,mentally and morally at peace. what I believe, I believe because of evidence and contemplation therefore I have no deep conflicts in belief. I have NO constrictions on thought, speech, action, company or feeling.

I indeed lost so, so many 'friends' and much of my family over time. In reality I never had these people, the relationships were conditional. This is not friendship, this is not love.

Now I am surrounded by people I like, I respect and there is nothing we don't/can't discuss. Friends are real friends, life long and unconditional.

Believe it or not, more of my family have now left than stayed. I never thought the day would come. But it happened. Seeing them become happy and free too is powerful.

For anyone contemplating leaving,...I only have ONE sadness, ONE regret. Ask anyone that has left and they will all say the same ...

i wish I had done it earlier, life is too short,,,,,

It is so painful to realise you wasted your childhood, your youth, your teens, your twenties, so much normality stolen. But truly, what balances this out, is being free now when so many JW's are not. If you are lucky and smart enough to have figured out it is all lies.... Take advantage and leave....get your family OUT,

Snare X