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  It's weird to look back at old family stories about our beliefs.

  by schnell in

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  my parents had a story that the first time my dad ever met my mom's father, he opened the door and immediately asked dad, "what are you gonna do if my grandson needs a blood transfusion?!".

  grampa was a ww2 vet, an airplane mechanic, a methodist and freemason.

  he and my grandmother were pictured all my life as these ogres who opposed my mother's jw conversion and her marriage to my father.

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  Really?

  What do you do when your child needs life saving treatment?

  Really?

  i hope you know the answer for your child's sake. There should be nothing more valuable to you than their life especially now you know it's all predicated on lies.
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  In praise of Randall Watters

  by nicolaou in

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  exjw's of a certain age will remember randy's site well.

  freeminds was instrumental in waking me up along with ray franz's books.

  if net soup and armageddon okies mean nothing to you you're probably under 30.. whatever caused randy to post what he did recently is something i can only guess at but it won't be what i remember him for.. randy, i wish you well and thank you for all you've done over the years .

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  Net soup was the first JW info I got outside of the organisation and the quality of the news and info was significant.

  ironic that the most moving story for me was that of Barbara Anderson. It changed my life!

  Everyone here is doing a great job and to the founders of these sites ....we really are all indebted to you and your efforts.
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  I am glad to have found the true religion

  by A Believer in

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  it really is great.

  i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

  i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

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  A believer ...... be happy, go enjoy your life.

  You are feee to go door to door disseminating a message you are not allowed to question.

  The rest of the world will get on with being free and informed.

  bye x

  p.s. For the sake of everyone you love that isn't a JW and every good human being who does not agree with you, I hope the genocide you pray for every day doesn't take place and if it does I'm so glad I stopped asking/hoping/praying for it because it disgusts me.

  We all await the next new light on what a "generation" refers to.....because Armageddon isn't coming.

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  Aron-Ra: Meteorology and the Flood

  by schnell in

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  a few days ago, aron-ra posted a new video commencing what he promises to be a new series debunking the noachian flood.

  he did this despite the fact that every adult should know it didn't happen, and yet many do.. i'd like to remind everyone what the insight book says: .

  the genesis account of creation tells how on the second “day” jehovah made an expanse about the earth, and this expanse (called “heaven”) formed a division between the waters below it, that is, the oceans, and the waters above it.

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  Animals need grass and vegetation, they congregate near rivers for said foods. Humans eat animals and drink water and die within days of an absence ....and so likewise established communities near rivers and water.

  Sea levels and water levels adjust constantly from drought to floods.

  What a surprise....... all human civilisations have stories of FLOODS.

  Not of A FLOOD but of FLOODS.

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  To love Jehovah more than friends and family.

  by schnell in

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  when i was a believer, i endorsed this idea too.

  i commented with things like "love jehovah more than your mate" or "love jehovah more than your friends".. it didn't occur to me as i was saying it that jehovah is an idea.

  this god concept is an idea that should really pass scrutiny if you're supposed to love it more than anything else.. at best, this means that jehovah is real and you have to love jehovah more than the people in your life, no matter the despicable things he is said to have done, condoned and endorsed in his holy writ.

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  The irony is....it was a lie.

  I do love my partner more than anyone in the world. I miss her when I can't be with her. Yet when I was a JW I would say I loved Jehovah and I would have defended that statement to the death. But I didn't ever really FEEL love for 'Jehovah'...... he was an invisible, confusing combination of emotions and contradictory actions that was hard to pin down into a tangible personality. It is simply not possible to LOVE such a concept. It is irrational to expect someone to.

  Its like when the people of N.Korea all say they love their leader. We all know you can't really love even a real being, you have never met and don't personally know. But it's expected and comes with risks if you don't say it, likewise as in the JW's.... and it very easily becomes 'normality'.

  Sad...... confusing love with fear.
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  "Intelligent" Witnesses

  by megaboy in

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  after reading some experiences, i have found that this organization has had quite a big change in its operations within the last decade.

  back when i was talking to the ocassional witnesses at a local hotspot i remember some of them having respectable intelligence.

  what i want to know though is those who have been aquainted with who they felt were more educated and independent in thinking, how they handled the rapid changes.

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  Are you sure that it's not you that has changed..... now more informed and analytical you see their empty and vacuous memorised talking points. The JW members have not altered much in 10 years, it's the same people with the same education and same fears and ignorances.

  i imagine the gap between JW's and the average informed individual will grow as the Information Age continues to rapidly develop.

  i remember when returning to college, learning physics, chemistry, biology.....looking around and seeing everyday people studying and learning in depth topics that as a newly ex JW made my lifelong 'spiritual' education from Watchtower seem pathetic. I remember well, looking around and the thought hitting me "Ahhh no wonder nobody listened to us JW's, look at what the average person knows!"

  P.s. Pew studies show that the JW's are the least educated international religious demographic (and poorest).
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  black dog comes to visit

  by zeb in

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  dear friends,.

  once again my depression has got the better of me and i must bow out for a time.. "the angels sang glory to god in the highest and on earth peace unto men of goodwill'.

  so if that means at this special time of the year then have a happy and safe christmas time all of you.. hugs.

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  Hey zeb, sending you a PM buddy x
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  The Simpsons and Back to the Future 2 are better at making predictions than the watchtower corporation.

  by hoser in

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  i'll leave this open for you guys to fill in the blanks.

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  Check this out (an earlier op I made)

  
  

  Mr Isaac Asimov made some predictions for 2014, (please note the lack of ambigous monsters of several heads and horns)....he was very, very specific all the way back in 1964....
  

  Communications will become sight-sound and you will see as well as hear the person you telephone. The screen can be used not only to see the people you call but also for studying documents and photographs and reading passages from books. Synchronous satellites hovering in space will make it possible for you to direct-dial any spot on Earth.

  By 2014, only unmanned ships will have landed on Mars, though a manned expedition will be in the work.

  Gadgetry will continue to relieve mankind of tedious jobs. Kitchen units will be devised that will prepare 'automeals', heating water..

  Robots will neither be common nor very good in 2014, but they will be in existence.

  Men will continue to withdraw from nature in order to create an environment that will suit them better. By 2014, electroluminescent panels will be in common use.

  Wall screens will have replaced the ordinary television set; but transparent cubes will be making their appearance in which three-dimensional viewing will be possible.

  The world of AD 2014 will have few routine jobs that cannot be done better by some machine than by any human being. Mankind will therefore have become largely a race of machine tenders.

  All the high-school students will be taught the fundamentals of computer technology.

  Although technology will still keep up with population through 2014, it will be only through a supreme effort and with but partial success. Not all the world's population will enjoy the gadgetry world of the future to the full. A larger portion than today will be deprived and although they may be better off, materially, than today, they will be further behind when compared with the advanced portions of the world. They will have moved backward, relatively
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  CO visits me today

  by Chook in

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  i'm at home and hear knock on door , i sneak and look i see two men and recognise one voice and go back into lonunge and ask wife ( who is inactive believer) does she want to speak to elders ,she says no ,then literally 3 minutes has pasted another knock the 3 minutes seemed like an eternity.

  so brave heart me think fuck it i'll answer ,i invite them in for coffee, i recognise one older man he is a unique elder who i genuinely was fond of when i was in his name is andrew ,the other guy i didn't recognise we will call harry ( not real name australia doesn't have that many cos with his same name).

  so i think to myself i will tread lightly and not cause to much of a fuss for the wife's sake, but my personality is very the opposite of treading lightly ,as you read my threads you will realise i'm not timid.

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  I like your thinking....

  i don't remember the prodigal son requiring reinstatement.

  Would being disfellowhsipped from his family help or hinder the prodigal son?
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  I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  so... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).

  actually, i am helping with two classes.

  i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.

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  I remember being in college and it dawning on me....

  "Oh ...this is why nobody was interested!"

  As for feeling shame, nobody is born with knowledge and you were fed lies. Don't be too hard on yourself.