snare&racket
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Did you know WTBTS applied for Holocaust compensation?
by umbertoecho indid you know that the wtbts applied for these compensation funds?
i had no idea and if this has already been addressed then so be it.
i find it interesting due to the fact that so much is made of the jws being in camps during ww2 and nothing else is expressed about the other millions who died in these camps.
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I researched this not long after and if you look at the literature, this was around the time they apologised for anti-Semitic language in attempting to communicate with the NAZI regime. -
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did you ever go to bethel either in the us or the uk what was it like there ?
by pepperheart inhi have you ever worked at bethel either in the us or the uk what was it like there ?
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UK from 99-00 and it was eye opening.
it was just a factory, with stringent rules, with people scurrying for authority. Lots of policing, lots of snitching, lots of affairs and drinking.
It was no spiritual haven, likewise it was no conspirital Area 51, it was JUST a factory run by a cult that cared A LOT about how much you cost them. I was 'told off' as I had my window open whilst the heating was on, in winter. As a 20 year old working there for FREE it was a surprise.
worst thing I saw: sisters clean the toilets of the accommodation with.... Toothbrushes.
best thing I saw: the matrix on my pal's TV with 5.1 surround sound.
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Jw's featured in the mags who later left?
by purrpurr ini was just wondering if any of those jw's who got their story told or featured as "a fine example" in the publications, if they ever left the org later?
i mean i know regular jw's would probably never hear about it but i thought maybe you guys might?
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Can think of a couple,
Ray Franz: gov body member
Babara Anderson: writing dept
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My introduction and confession
by elderINewton inwell another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.
i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.
i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.
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Save your daughter, get her out the meetings and preparing watchtowers and into the school and preparing for exams. You and your wife have had your life and still have the means to repair what was lost, act fast and your daughter may just get a chance at a wonderful normal life.
i left at 26 and the only regret, as with everyone that leaves, is not leaving earlier.
p.s. Much kudos for being brave and coming here.
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UK day out?
by snare&racket inhow many would be up for a decent sized uk meet up?.
i haven't been to any and would happily help organise one.. snare .
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Sure there will be,...come along, fly for a day and come on over............. just bring some chips and dips with ya! -
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UK day out?
by snare&racket inhow many would be up for a decent sized uk meet up?.
i haven't been to any and would happily help organise one.. snare .
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UK day out?
by snare&racket inhow many would be up for a decent sized uk meet up?.
i haven't been to any and would happily help organise one.. snare .
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How many would be up for a decent sized UK meet up?
I haven't been to any and would happily help organise one.
snare
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The spread of religion through history
by snare&racket inwhen growing up a jw, i was always confused as to world history, geography and religious development.
it didn't make sense, because what we were told was simply untrue.... http://tinyurl.com/purzy8k.
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Hey buddy,
yeah leg is still in plaster, thankfully healing in good alignment. Another 3 weeks to go! I was due to leave for a music festival today, in Spain, but can't go...lame,
The bike is perfect, I never got to pick it up. I broke my leg on the Wed, was picking it up on the next Mon. It is sat waiting for me in Cardiff :(
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The spread of religion through history
by snare&racket inwhen growing up a jw, i was always confused as to world history, geography and religious development.
it didn't make sense, because what we were told was simply untrue.... http://tinyurl.com/purzy8k.
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When growing up a JW, I was always confused as to world history, geography and religious development. It didn't make sense, because what we were told was simply untrue...
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Stats on Gay Marriage & Religious Belief
by snare&racket inso just how non-judgmental, tolerant, respectful, caring, loving, liberal and humane are the religious groups?.
"findings from prris american values atlas, which draws on 40,000 interviews among a random sample of americans, provides the most in-depth portrait to date of attitudes on same-sex marriage by religious affiliation.. the most supportive major religious groups are buddhists (84 percent), jews (77 percent), and americans who select other religion (75 percent); additionally, more than three-quarters (77 percent) of the religiously unaffiliated also support same-sex marriage.. more than six in ten (62 percent) white mainline protestants support same-sex marriage.
among white mainline protestant denominations, support ranges from 69 percent support among white mainline presbyterians and 68 percent among both white episcopalians and white congregationalists/united church of christ members, to lower support among white mainline baptists (53 percent) and white mainline church of christ/disciples (50 percent).. and while the catholic church officially opposes the legalization of same-sex marriage, about six in ten white (61 percent), hispanic (60 percent), and other non-white catholics (60 percent) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally.
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So just how non-judgmental, tolerant, respectful, caring, loving, liberal and humane are the religious groups?
"Findings from PRRI’s American Values Atlas, which draws on 40,000 interviews among a random sample of Americans, provides the most in-depth portrait to date of attitudes on same-sex marriage by religious affiliation.
The most supportive major religious groups are Buddhists (84 percent), Jews (77 percent), and Americans who select “Other religion” (75 percent); additionally, more than three-quarters (77 percent) of the religiously unaffiliated also support same-sex marriage.
More than six in ten (62 percent) white mainline Protestants support same-sex marriage. Among white mainline Protestant denominations, support ranges from 69 percent support among white mainline Presbyterians and 68 percent among both white Episcopalians and white Congregationalists/United Church of Christ members, to lower support among white mainline Baptists (53 percent) and white mainline Church of Christ/Disciples (50 percent).
And while the Catholic Church officially opposes the legalization of same-sex marriage, about six in ten white (61 percent), Hispanic (60 percent), and other non-white Catholics (60 percent) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. A majority of orthodox Christians (56 percent) also support same-sex marriage.
On the other side of the debate, majorities of Jehovah’s Witnesses (75 percent), Mormons (68 percent), white evangelical Protestants (66 percent), Hispanic Protestants (58 percent), and black Protestants (54 percent) oppose allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. Among white evangelical Protestant denominations, white evangelical Baptists are the most opposed (72 percent), while white evangelical Lutherans are nearly evenly divided (45 percent favor, 48 percent opposed)."
I was so ashamed when the JW's came bottom of the worlds religious denomination tables for education and household income, but this is just Bronze Age embarrassing.
The youth and liberals in the JW's (25%) have done well to say they support it, but it is no surprise that the worlds most draconian belief system is falling further and further behind.
Hopefully this will prove eye opening for the more humane and less ignorant JW's........