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  Dumb Elders

  by minimus in

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  i knew a few pretty intelligent elders .

  sometimes i would wonder why they remained as elders or even witnesses because they were successful men who made a good living and were highly respected because of their qualities.. that is a rather small group.

  most elders that i know of aren’t the brightest bulbs in the sky.

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  Family members calling me upset because their marriage was in a bad place and the elders came around and didn't help/ couldn't help fix it....

  I asked my sibling what the elder did for a living 'painter and decorator',

  So, I spelt it out for her... "You are confused as to why a local painter and decorator can't help you with your marriage and relationship issues, his only connection to you being that he goes to the same religious building as you do locally."

  Why JW's expect so much from elders is baffling..... they should not be providing pastoral care, teaching, child abuse investigations, judiciary meetings, marriage counselling or even theological guidance. They have ZERO training, their one qualification is consistent field ministry hours.

  The ministry school is no PGC, the annual elders teaching days are not equivalent to law degrees, social work degrees or forensic police training. They are instructional days to ensure the elders are on WT's track.

  I met intelligent elders, some with successful businesses known nationally. I really liked many of them, but having been a JW, I know they lack the courage and fortitude to doubt or question, the humility to risk being wrong or the dedication to truth so as to sacrifice it all when knowing something wasn't right. This is where intelligence can leave one lacking and left behind, cognitive dissonance,

  What makes me sad, is that they will even let their own children and family suffer the same beliefs rather than have the courage to question. Disappointing and heartbreaking beyond belief....
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  Another Rainbow explained....

  by snare&racket in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  due to the many variables involved it has been difficult for science to predict how proteins fold to form their uniquely functional state.

  proteins are built from individual amino acids up, coded by dna.

  protein function is dictated by its shape and amino acid make up.

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  Very rhetorical !

  Thank you for finding that brochure, it held the 'gap' of knowledge in protein folding on high, making it out to be a huge issue in the defence of evolution. Utter nonsense and very deceiving.
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  Another Rainbow explained....

  by snare&racket in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  due to the many variables involved it has been difficult for science to predict how proteins fold to form their uniquely functional state.

  proteins are built from individual amino acids up, coded by dna.

  protein function is dictated by its shape and amino acid make up.

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  Due to the many variables involved it has been difficult for science to predict how proteins fold to form their uniquely functional state. Proteins are built from individual amino acids up, coded by DNA. Protein function is dictated by its shape and amino acid make up. The amino acids form a 'tape' like stricture and enter an organelle called a ribosome where a complex folding process takes place and the finished protein exits the ribosome.

  Science has ling been able to appreciate the amino acid sequence and the see the final protein molecule. We have not had the calculating power in our hands to work out how exactly each protein folds in the ribosome. This is not because there was an imagined 'magical' or mysterious state between an unfolded and folded protein but simply that it is so complex. The most complex 'origami' imaginable!

  For anyone with a basic understanding, you can appreciate the power of complex hydrophobic and hydrophilic regions of the molecule that contributed to the folding but in such a manner that though we understood how, could not predict due to complexity and huge variables.

  The JW literature used this knowledge gap in science to insert god. I always thought it was a weak sauce god of the gaps example as it was likely going to be understood soon enough with powerful enough computing. Well I read it in their literature 2008....

  Now the gap is closed.... I wonder if the JW's will retract and apologise for their 'hypothesis' or simply stay quiet and say nothing about one more false claim, one more false explanation in defence of creation over evolution, one more disproven claim by uneducated cult leaders...

  www.technologyreview.com/2020/11/30/1012712/deepmind-protein-folding-ai-solved-biology-science-drugs-disease/amp/
  
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  Voter Fraud !

  by Sea Breeze in

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  dick morris sounds the alert:.

  https://www.dickmorris.com/fight-massive-democratice-fraud/ .

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  What is the source for the 6000 vote switch? Not read that anywhere... interesting and concerning if evident.
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  Pioneers privilige

  by justice34 in

  1. watchtower
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  organization and congregation seems to give so much attention to the pioneers and the hours.

  encouraging the members to get even the 30h at the month of c/o visit even if they don't complete the minimum of the hours.

  why do they give so much praise and attention to pioneers?

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  This is a business and belief structure that can't stay stagnant in growth, it would financially implode.

  To survive financially it needs constant new members.

  Members provide two things, money and new members (ministry and having children).

  Every young new member has the potential to supply decades of new members, with about half of their indoctrinated future children staying.

  Older new members may leave the WT its finances especially with family distancing based on WT doctrine.

  Watchtower know their stats inside out, hence all the data they collect from members. They know roughly how many hours ministry = x1 new member.

  Bethelites, CO'S, Elders.... don't bring in new members. Pioneers tended to, just for statistical reasons. Watchtower know their business well and that sustaining it's position it is all about the hours of ministry!

  Hence Pioneer privilege.....

  But.....this will likely decline as 'the ministry' faces data and truth via the internet. Pioneers and ministry grind can't match an informed public.

  I can see WT taking a 'new light' approach to ex members. A large source of potential new members. An 'all is forgiven' new light and new love bombing of long lost family and friends. I also can imagine a attempt to maintain retention by altering strict rules and making JW life a little easier.
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  Voter Fraud !

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. social
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  dick morris sounds the alert:.

  https://www.dickmorris.com/fight-massive-democratice-fraud/ .

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  There are many statistical methods to detect irregularities in voting, it would be very detectable if mass organized voter fraud took place.

  Vote irregularities happen every democratic election. You have to prove intent and assign blame, with evidence. Irregularities will happen at same kind of rate as other elections.

  You can't hold weight in anecdotal stories and pictures without hard evidence. Let's imagine candidate X wanted to have a safety net for losing an election, so they have a pile of pro X votes dumped, to undermine the election.

  My point being, finding an irregularity such as a pile of dumped votes does not provide motive or the guilty party.

  You can't assume the winner cheated just because they won, it may well have been the loser cheating.

  Lastly, check your own bias. Want to call the election a fraud and a full recount whoever wins?.... you sure?
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  Pand€mi£ Contribution$

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  hi everyone, hope all are well :).

  just wondering, with all these zoom meetings and cancelled assemblies, just how the financial contribution system works in 2020?.

  i obviously am wondering if it will have a huge impact on the wt org.. can someone kindly summarise how contributions are managed nowadays, both officially and anecdotally in kh's.. i was last attending around 2004, where there were x2 contribution boxes, the world wide work and kh fund.

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  As someone long left, it seems bizarre that the god who made the universe, would be counting on a zoom vote to keep the presses printing. When I left, JW's were still very much of the 'old light' that when they start asking for money, that is the day theynhave lost gods favor.

  Absolutely bananas!
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  We got a letter addressed to Barbara Anderson and my husband!

  by 3rdgen in

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  2. experiences

  no kidding!

  the return address is the po box for the local kh.

  the letter was addressed: .

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  Her way of maybe hinting she knows you are here? Or maybe reaching out for some TATT subtly, but with cognitive impairment.
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  Pand€mi£ Contribution$

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, hope all are well :).

  just wondering, with all these zoom meetings and cancelled assemblies, just how the financial contribution system works in 2020?.

  i obviously am wondering if it will have a huge impact on the wt org.. can someone kindly summarise how contributions are managed nowadays, both officially and anecdotally in kh's.. i was last attending around 2004, where there were x2 contribution boxes, the world wide work and kh fund.

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  snare&racket

  Hi everyone, hope all are well :)

  Just wondering, with all these zoom meetings and cancelled assemblies, just how the financial contribution system works in 2020?

  I obviously am wondering if it will have a huge impact on the WT org.

  Can someone kindly summarise how contributions are managed nowadays, both officially and anecdotally in KH's.

  I was last attending around 2004, where there were x2 contribution boxes, the World Wide Work and KH Fund. They had just started heavily pushing gift aid (charity tax benefit in UK).

  Thank you!
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  "I still miss it Dad" My 41 Year Son Admitted

  by 1234 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on the 18th of september i turned in my disassociation letter in to the tigard congregation, 19 years ago.. my son turned in his letter in november 2001, 19 years ago shortly after me.

  he was 21 years old.. two days ago we were working together on a wrap for his a/c unit on his bus.. out of blue, he says "i still miss it dad.

  not the religion.

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  True friends don't care what you believe, they were religious acquaintances with conditional friendship. Sad but true.