i see a lot of mentions about hospitality after the public talk and honestly, i guess it is a practice that was not in the ny/ct area i grew up in or here in south florida today.. i grew up with an elder father and grandfather who gave public talks and were generally well-liked.
as a child, i never recall being invited to someone's house after the meeting.
granted, it was rare to travel more than an hour but regardless, it was typical to get in the car and head home after the "amens.
Hospitality is definitely a custom here in the midwest. In fact.....every KH I ever went to assigned weekly hospitality on a rotating basis by "bookstudy group". In other words, this week is the Elm street bookstudy's turn. The Elm Street book study conductor would then ask who among his group would like to host the speaker on Sunday. Brother Brown Nose raises his hand.
The vast majority of the time.....though......Brother Brown Nose takes the speaker out to Chili's or some place like that
did you change the way you dress after leaving the wt?.
I know this thread is more for the ladies but guess what? To HELL with neckties!
how many of you have ever worked on a quick build?
here's a good one.
i am a professional pencil pusher by nature.....but many years ago i decided i would volunteer at quick builds so i could help "build a house for jehovah".
Now it's about 4 weeks, I think
how many of you have ever worked on a quick build?
here's a good one.
i am a professional pencil pusher by nature.....but many years ago i decided i would volunteer at quick builds so i could help "build a house for jehovah".
Holy moly 3rdGen. That's better than mine. He did meth? Did he show up the next day all strung out? I think he would've made a nice addition to "Bethel". Honestly.....with 2,000+ people at "Bethel".....I guarantee there is someone that is currently seeing an "escort". There are undoubtedly some gay brothers. There are probably some swingers. A lot of alcoholics etc etc.
I think Bethel is just like everywhere else.....just.....the average JW can't fathom such a thing
how many of you have ever worked on a quick build?
here's a good one.
i am a professional pencil pusher by nature.....but many years ago i decided i would volunteer at quick builds so i could help "build a house for jehovah".
How many of you have ever worked on a quick build? Here's a good one. I am a professional pencil pusher by nature.....but many years ago I decided I would volunteer at quick builds so I could help "build a house for Jehovah". Evidently he is homeless in many areas. Anywho......I was accepted onto the drywall crew. So I show up on Saturday. I receive about 15 minutes of training and the next thing I know I am cutting and hanging drywall. The sad thing was......after lunch we re-convened. Aside from the ring leader......our drywall crew consisted of 8 people. Guess who had the most experience of the crew? Yup. Me. 15 minutes of training and 4 hours of work under my belt. But wait. It gets better. Sunday morning I show up and the coordinator says "where are my dry wall folks?". Me and about 5 others raise our hands. He then asks "do any of you have any experience?" I was the only one to raise my hand. At that time I had 15 minutes of training and 8 hours under my belt. He then said "Great! Here's your crew!" Yup. Saturday morning......I was a beginner. By Sunday morning....I was foreman.
It must have been Jehovah's blessing. I mean...how else do you explain climbing the artisan ladder so quickly? It couldn't have been that they were desperate!
Any other ridiculous quick build stories out there?
so the other night, my family was together and my dad brought up the recent child abuse conviction for the society.
big surprise, my sister hadn't heard anything about it, so of course she got right on to the jw.org website and emailed me the link to the watchtowers official statement.
this is my reply:.
"In the end nothing short of Jehovah coming down and saying he likes the Mormons, would change their mind."
Even if that happened.....your brother would likely say "that wasn't God.....that was Satan posing as God!"
so the other night, my family was together and my dad brought up the recent child abuse conviction for the society.
big surprise, my sister hadn't heard anything about it, so of course she got right on to the jw.org website and emailed me the link to the watchtowers official statement.
this is my reply:.
Just because it happened in the organization which is made up of imperfect people doesn't mean you blame the organization
But it happened because of the policies and the advice handed down from Bethel. Both the perpetrator and the society are to blame. If the society shares no part of this crime due to their policies and advice.....then my stock broker shares none of the blame for advising me to invest in junk bonds.
so the other night, my family was together and my dad brought up the recent child abuse conviction for the society.
big surprise, my sister hadn't heard anything about it, so of course she got right on to the jw.org website and emailed me the link to the watchtowers official statement.
this is my reply:.
At this point I would show her the deposition (available online) of the elders that were involved in the case. The deposition plainly states that the elders did not report the matter because they were advised not to.
But the Organization is not responsible for what happened to her.
Really? Because I see a policy on their website that says that there IS a 2 witness rule......and I see a deposition that says that the elders were advised by Bethel NOT to report the incident. Kendrick molested his own step daughter and the elders knew about it. They should have reported him to the police immediately. At that point.....IT WOULD BE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE and they would have done their part to protect the congregation. But they did NOT report him. The fact that they did not report him to the police thus kept the fact that he molested his own step daughter private/quiet. This allowed him to time to sail under the radar for a while and to choose his next victim and do the same to her. The next victim was Candace Conti. If the elders had reported hiim to the police the first time.....the police would have launched a public investigation. Conti's family would have known that at the very least he was an alleged abuser. This would have prevented them from ever leaving her alone with him. It is in the deposition. The society advised the elder not to tell law enforcement. It is the SOCIETY'S FAULTY ADVICE/FAULTY POLICY that caused Conti' to get molested. I would flat out ask her how the society is NOT at fault when they were the ones that advised the elder not to contact law enforcement.
And the elders are following ceasar's law - not Jehovah's by not disclosing the alleged accused name to the congregation.
Again. They don't have to make an annoucement from the stage. All they have to do is tell the friggin police and it will become public knowledge/safety.
Jehovah is in full control of what goes on in his organization and if there was some error on the part of the brothers he will deal with it in his own time.
Perhaps he is dealing with it now.....for about $28 million.......and perhaps he'll deal with it soon in the future when more suits come in.
We can pray for that family, only the new system will take away the pain she's suffered (rev21:4) no amount of money will do that for her.
Money will not take away her pain. That is for sure. But should she or anyone else risk taking THEIR children to a place (the kingdom hall) that harbors pedophiles due to the policies of the leadership of the organization? Would God really direct them to NOT inform the police.....so that ANOTHER child can be hurt?
why did the wts not try to settle this lawsuit before going to trial as they had so many times previously?
was it presumptiousness on the part of the society's lawyers and gb?
had this been settled it would have hardly caused a whimper.. it got me to thinking that although the verdict of $28 million is unheard of, it may actually further the wts to make their claims that they are the only true religion.. reason being- if the monetary award is overturned then they will say it was jehovahs will.
I think it is a lose-lose in the long run. But in the short-run.....they will try to spin it as a win win.
Win on appeal - See? Jehovah is directing!
Lose on appeal - See? Satan is attacking. The end is near!
Sorry dude. I worry about not being able to be a part of my grandkids' lives someday
This is an evil, sick cult
