Didn't they change their mind on that? I thought the newest light was that unborn children MAY be resurrected?
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The wt contridiction on when life begins
by elderelite inthis is one of those bizzare things that occurs to me when i first wake, as if my mind was churrning in my sleep.... .
the org teaches that abortion is wrong since life begins at conception.. the org also teaches that babies womt be resurected since there is nothig (no devloped personality) to resurect.
how can both be the case?
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Just a quick update
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini have been inactice now for about 4 months.
i keep getting visit from elders and well meaning ministerial servants.
i went back to two meetings about two weeks ago.
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" One minute i just want to be out and the next...i want to be safe in."
For the love of God.....please do some research on cults. That is the way cults are designed to make you feel. They create a bubble of imaginary safety for you
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Barbara Anderson's website
by outsmartthesystem ini tried to go to barbara's website to order the book "secrets of pedophilia in an american religion".
evidently the book is sold through randy's website (freeminds).
but that page is down and has been for a while now.
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are wt writers inept or trying to repel clear thinkers?
by prologos inin the "what does the bible really teach" book, an attempt is made to illustrate the nature of satans challenge, as it explains suffering allowed to prove jehoahs' souvereignty.
on page 110 is given the illustration of a bright kid stepping up to the blackboard to show the elderly teacher (probably head of the teacher union chapter) * a more elegant way to solve those equations.
wt equates that situation to satans challenge.
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It is a horrible illustration. In the illustration in the book.....it is a math problem......and if the kid is wrong.....he simply suffers some humiliation and the teacher is vindicated. But in reality.....a better comparison would be that of a chemistry issue. The kid insists that certain chemicals can be mixed. The teacher disagrees but allows the kid to mix the chemicals anyway. The kid causes an explosion that harms every single child in the entire school. THAT is the "just" way that God went about proving his sovereignty.
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Are you sure you have not spoken to someone about Jehovah or the Bible for at least 15 minutes?
by Calebs Airplane inhow many here have had this conversation before (especially just before the week-long visit by the circuit overseer)?:.
brother irregular, i don't believe we've received your report for last month.
did you turn it in yet?.
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Barbara Anderson's website
by outsmartthesystem ini tried to go to barbara's website to order the book "secrets of pedophilia in an american religion".
evidently the book is sold through randy's website (freeminds).
but that page is down and has been for a while now.
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Barbara Anderson's website
by outsmartthesystem ini tried to go to barbara's website to order the book "secrets of pedophilia in an american religion".
evidently the book is sold through randy's website (freeminds).
but that page is down and has been for a while now.
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outsmartthesystem
I tried to go to Barbara's website to order the book "Secrets of Pedophilia in an American Religion". Evidently the book is sold through Randy's website (freeminds). But that page is down and has been for a while now. Does anyone know how else to order that book? (and how to get a hold of Barbara and/or Randy to let them know)??????
Thanks
OSTS
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Loyalty Questions in Judicial Hearings
by 00DAD ini've seen several posts on various threads about a particular "loyalty question" or two that elders ask during judicial hearings.
granted it's been several years since i was an elder, but i never heard of this practice.
is there anything officially in print on this from the wt?
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I was DFd three weeks ago. They flat out asked me if I still believe the Watchtower society was Jehovah's organization. I told them "that remains to be seen.......I have so many questions that you are unwilling to answer. How can I be sure if the society is God's organization if you won't answer me? Your answers would go a long way toward helping me determine once and for all if the society truly is God's one and only organization." They determined that my lack of affirmative answer was enough to hang me.
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Wake up Reading list
by perfect1 inhey everyone:.
i was wondering what books you read that helped you wake up from the wt hypnosis.
i havent read all that many myself- but i know coc is supposed to be a good one.. thanks!.
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Crises of Conscience
Captives of a Concept
Releasing the Bonds
The Gentile Times Reconsidered
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Why are atheists so intent on scorning "believers"?
by Chariklo inuntil recently, i had never encountered this word "believers" used as it is being used on this board, to describe pejoratively a group of people.
it's not clear to me whether they scorn all who have a faith of some sort.
do they include buddhists, hindus, followers of the baha'i faith, followers of the cargo cult, native americans along with christians, or is it just christians who are honoured with this epithet?.
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I like point number 6 as well.
Even Dawkins leaves open the slight sliver of a possibility that there could be a god.
I am not saying that there is or isnt
If someone is athiest and firmly believes he/she is right.....that is fine.....lay out your case but respect the belief of others (as ridiculous as it may seem to you). If someone is a "believer" and firmly believes he/she is right.....that too is fine......lay out your case but please be respectful of those that do not share your (or any) level of faith.
We all have one thing in common. We got fed up with the Watchtower Society's dogmatic insistence that they alone are right all others that disagree are to be scorned or pitied. Let's learn something from that and respect one anothers' individuality.