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  Bloodplates... Can it Really be Justified?

  by mrbunyrabit in

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  2. medical

  i was thinking about something.. getting a blood transfution.. thats wrong right?

  oky and theres allot of scriptures supporting that.. so is giving blood at a bloodbank allowed for witnesses?

  no, its not allowed.... oky so heres my question.... witnesses are allowed to use blood plates... where does those blood plates come from?.

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  Mrbunyrabit said,

  "That means that witnesses are in fact profiting from other peoples sins.. Because those other people are going to lose ever lasting life because they donate blood.. but witnesses can use that blood?"

  You make a good point here. JWs are allowed to accept blood fractions (it's a conscience matter), and all blood fractions are derived from someone else's whole blood donations. Witnesses can't give blood, but they can accept fractions from other people's blood.

  "How does that work?"

  It works for no other reason than the Watchtower Society says it works. It is not Bible based. It's one of many contradictions in the Watchtower belief system.

  Welcome to the forum. You have noticed an issue that seems to go right over the head of most JWs.
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  Your advice please on "Scriptual Divorce"

  by karter in

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  2. friends

  my ex and i have a legal divorce.. she asked me to write a letter to the b.o.e so she can get a scriptual divorce.. she said she had spoken to the c.o.b.e ans they would take no action against me as i haven't been to a meeting in about 12 years.. my reply "ok get him to put that in writing".

  so do you think they will put that in writing?.

  and would they take action if i did write the letter giveing her a scriptual divorce?.

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  @Djeggnogg who said,

  "While the elders are not judges, they are adults..."

  Whaaat? If elders are part of a judicial committee, they certainly are judges!
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  Your advice please on "Scriptual Divorce"

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my ex and i have a legal divorce.. she asked me to write a letter to the b.o.e so she can get a scriptual divorce.. she said she had spoken to the c.o.b.e ans they would take no action against me as i haven't been to a meeting in about 12 years.. my reply "ok get him to put that in writing".

  so do you think they will put that in writing?.

  and would they take action if i did write the letter giveing her a scriptual divorce?.

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  Djeggnog said,

  "Since what your wife wants is to be scripturally free to remarry, she need only inform the elders of your infidelity today...she would then be free to remarry today."

  I don't quite follow this. Where would the second witness be? For that matter where is the first witness?

  I'm unclear whether Karter has explicitly admitted infidelity to his ex. If he has, is that enough to negate the 2 witness rule? Would it now come down to her word that he admitted infidelity, and the elders would accept that as enough evidence?

  If so, why would the elders require a letter in the first place? (Unless the letter was stictly her idea, with no mention of it from the elders. The post doesn't make it clear whether the elders asked for it).

  In any case, Karter should not submit a letter admitting anything. His request that he be given a letter from the elders guaranteeing they will not disfellowship is reasonable. Of course they will not comply, but neither should Karter comply with a letter to them. Without getting a letter, I would not give a letter. It it's a stalemate, then so be it.
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  I can't believe it, but a kid got marked for having worldy friends.

  by Knowsnothing in

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  2. beliefs

  it's true.

  last night, a kid got marked for having worldy friends.

  the usual no friendship with the world texts made its way in.

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  Prov 22:6 is a scripture that Jehovah's Witnesses have never come close to fulfilling.

  " Train up a boy according to the way for him; even when he grows old he will not turn aside from it."

  It's as Billy said,

  And that is exactly how they manage to lose 2/3 of their born-ins.
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  Download While You Can!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  credit goes to anony mous=http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/215963/1/ready-to-leak-wikileaks-style=anony mous wrote:=hi,=i have a cache of documents that are direct from the branch.

  they include letters, forms, videos, booklets, instructions on how to handle everything in kingdom hall locally and rbc's financially and otherwise.=includes the branch's instructions on how to write the local incorporations so that all assets go to watchtower inc. and in case that corporation doesn't exist anymore or is no longer tax free, to the governing body (that's what it says!).

  i have them for all states but only going to include ny (since that's where they are located).

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  Hi Janice, and welcome to the forum. I noticed your post did not take. If you are using some versions of Internet Explorer there can be problems, but it seems that Firefox works pretty well here.

  Others can give better advice I'm sure.
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  Has Violence Declined?

  by blondie in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c__xwmsz4au.

  http://www.wpr.org/webcasting/audioarchives_display.cfm?code=rkt.

  friday.

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  He says,

  "People confuse a data point with a trend," in reference to the 20th Century violence of WWI and WWII.

  He goes on to explain that those two spikes in violence were temporary and did not lead to a trend in violence. He makes sense.

  Watchtower will always look at isolated episodes of violence to try to makes it's case that it is on the increase.

  Also significnat is the fact that when there is an episode of violence it is replayed over and over in the media, giving the impression that there is more violence than there really is.
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  Sorry to all members

  by usualusername in

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  2. friends

  yesterday i posted the crazy thread and wish to apologise.. .

  i was found by a friend and taken to hospital.. .

  a mental health team will also give me further support.. .

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  I will no longer comment lest I cause offence.

  I am happy to say that your posts seem very sincere, as does your apology. I believe it is accepted by all, but certainly by me.

  And there is no need to withdraw from here; your posts are as welcome as anybody's.
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  Sorry to all members

  by usualusername in

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  2. friends

  yesterday i posted the crazy thread and wish to apologise.. .

  i was found by a friend and taken to hospital.. .

  a mental health team will also give me further support.. .

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  Usualusername said,

  Scenic it was very real

  If it was real (and I'm a terrible judge of these things) I wish you the best in the coming days. I hope the issue you found hard to deal with can be taken care of with an approach that brings you good health and well being.

  All the best to you.
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  Sorry to all members

  by usualusername in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday i posted the crazy thread and wish to apologise.. .

  i was found by a friend and taken to hospital.. .

  a mental health team will also give me further support.. .

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  Curious here,

  Were you really downing pills and alcohol in an attempt to end your life, or was that a hoax? I left the thread thinking it was probably a hoax.
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  Six Screens next on Pay Pals hit list !

  by koolaid-man in

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  2. friends

  could be coincidental, but after announcing our scheduled dialogue program to be broadcasted live on feb. 21, 2012 with seven unthank, pay pal alerts me of suspicious activity in the six screens account..

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  Mad Sweeney said,

  I was kind of disappointed when Mr. Unthank declined to appear on Cult Free Radio.

  I am disappointed too. I wasn't necessarily hoping to have him taken away from the 6 screens show already in the works, but I was hoping for him to be on your show at another time. Or did he decline your show before making arrangements with Rick Fearon?

  Did he give reasons for declining that you can share?