i have just finished an article misquotes, deception and lies and would like your comments, proof reading, and any other examples that you think are important to add.
most of these already appear on jwfacts.com within specific articles, but it is more powerful seeing them included together.
there have also been a number of requests over the years for such a collection.
Ray Publisher - Great find. I'll add the Readers Digest images as well, but will need to look into it for more information. I love how they copied it, but erased one person so it would not seem like it was stolen.
Jwfacts, these links may be helpful. They both appear to cover basically the same information, including letters to and from Watchtower regarding the plagiairized photo.
why are jehovah's witnesses as a whole not permitted to read the elder's manual?.
on the first day of the unfermented cakes, well before his arrest and sacrificial death, jesus christ instructed his disciples on how to prepare for the passover.
when he did so, he did not provide advance, detailed instructions for all of his disciples; instead, he dispatched only two of them to find a suitable location, which he evidently had already planned with the householder.
Taken in.
I thought it was absolutely read until I read the follow up posts.
That was incredibly good.
former jw timothy kline wrote an excellent article in 2002 that examines from a scriptural perspective the watchtower society's "two witnesses" requirement applicable to child abuse allegations (called "part 1" but there appears to be no further parts).
the article shows there are certainly alternative interpretations available to the watchtower society that would allow them to easily adjust this flawed aspect of their policy while still adhering to scriptural principles.
16 but if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established.
I just now saw this and haven't read the article yet, but...
I've always felt that Watchtower's insistence on using the 2-witness rule in child abuse cases was a complete misapplication of scripture, and that the real reason it is being used is to keep the problem of child molesting quiet in order to protect the Organization's public image. After all the judgemental finger-pointing that Watchtower has done to other religious groups it wouldn't do to let it be known JWs are no different.
I am going to savor this article!
Thanks for the post.
im not talking about simply being reinstated.
i remember hearing a story about a brother that was disfellowshipped because of the testimony of two false witnesses.
years passed before they admitted to lying about the brother and was reinstated.. what is policy in this sort of situation?
itsybitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat,
did your story happen in Arizona?
No, it was in central California. Do you know of a similar case in Az?
im not talking about simply being reinstated.
i remember hearing a story about a brother that was disfellowshipped because of the testimony of two false witnesses.
years passed before they admitted to lying about the brother and was reinstated.. what is policy in this sort of situation?
I know of one DF'ing that was reversed in the 1970s.
An announcement was made that Brother _______ has been disfellowshipped. (that's the way it was said then)
The announcement was aparrently made too early, not allowing for his appeal, because 2 weeks later it was announced that "the DF'ing of Brother ______ has been rescinded."
I'm not sure what the details were, but I believe it had to do with financial dealings because he was an accountant, and a relative who worked with him in his business was also DF'd; the relative was somewhat of a scam artist, always had some kind of a get-rich-quick scheme going.
The relative's DF'ing stuck.
the new communist government were reasonable.
you can preach in your halls just not "door to door.
" missionary stanley jones and other non chinese stoped...but encouraged the chinese brothers to continue.
Is it true that missionary Witnesses stopped going door to door, but encouraged Chinese Witnesses to keep doing it?
Why? The double standard of that is awful.
It also shows the lack of love that the Watchtower organization has for it's rank-and-file followers. It leaves the feeling that people are disposable to Watchtower as long as a good persecution story can be published, which can often be spun into a good sales pitch to make the Organization grow.
there was a conti that was a do in my circuit a few years ago.
who are the conti's that everyone is talking about?
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A few more reports that are still on the internet.
Examiner, http://www.examiner.com/article/jehovah-s-witnesses-ordered-to-pay-21-million-child-sex-abuse-case
Mercury News, http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20867873/jehovahs-witnesses-must-pay-20-million-fremont-sex
U.S. News, http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2012/06/16/calif-jury-awards-28m-in-jehovahs-sex-abuse-case
"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
"New Light."
It's the crutch that Witnesses use to explain away a long list of past lies.
There are some great responses here, expressions I haven't heard in years. When you see them all in one place it becomes strikingly clear that Witnesses are speaking the language of a cult.
over at the archives..enjoy!.
http://archive.org/details/1975predictionsinawakemagazinebyjehovahswitnesses.
*click on pdf at the left side of the page.
Haelcer, I would like to have that download but I couldn't figure out how to get it without registering to something.
Any suggestions anybody?
see title?
someone i know has gloated that he bought $15 of scratch off tickets, and won $35.
i thought one could not gamble, and it would include scratch off tickets..
The Elder’s Manual seems to say it two different ways.
I. Gambling is to be avoided in all it’s forms.
(Shepherd the Flock of God, p69 (the 2010 Elder’s Manual))
“Christians should avoid gambling in all it's various forms, including lotteries. If a person makes a practice of gambling and after repeated counsel unrepentantly pursues a course of greediness, judicial action would be appropriate."
II. Petty gambling for entertainment is ok.
(Shepherd the Flock of God, p70 (the 2010 Elder’s Manual))“The elders do well not to involve themselves in what individuals do with regard to petty gambling solely for entertainment. They may need to give counsel if this becomes a cause of stumbling for others or affects the spirituality of the individual or the congregation.”
Once again the Organization seems to be saying it both ways.
It seems so unclear these days. I guess they can get you if they want you, but if they want to let you slide they have a basis for that too.
