https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
"True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world,' even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?...Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
Somehow, if you predict a false date you are a false prophet - unless you are Jehovah's Witnesses. Only in the Watchtower world!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
"I was dedicated to Jehovah, not a date." (From the video @ 2:17)Why would anyone who is really dedicated to Jehovah continue to following an organization that is all about dates, always has been, and has proven itself to be a false prophet over and over again?
may 15, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: regular pioneers.
uk version.
This arrangement is not a provision to allow an individual to care for sick relatives...
Helping people in need is one of the cornerstones and most honorable pursuits in Christianity. It takes a spiritual person to voluntarily look after others who are incapable of taking care of themselves. But in the Watchtower world it isn't permitted if you want to remain a pioneer - only time spent preaching the Watchtower message counts, and is the main marker of spirituality.
Looking at this from a distance now, it is clear just how perverted the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is.
i have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
The guy [Richard Oliver] is trying to find the facts.
No he isn't, he is only trying to defend Watchtower. RO will dole out just enough fact to twist it in Watchtower's favor, but the real facts - the whole truth - means nothing to him.
i have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
The only statement that says estimate ScenicViewer is the statement by SilentLambs for the Fessler Case.
Again Richard Oliver has avoided the question which is "Where did anyone claim that a settlement amount is an "absolute fact," which is the term he used but could not substantiate.
I see that RO is now off the site. At least he won't be able to avoid the question again, which is part of his method of argument, and readers, including lurkers, won't be subjected to his flawed and misleading methods of reasoning that are simply designed to support an abusive religious organization, the Watchtower Society.
i have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
Your illustration is incomplete. (Said to Richard Oliver)
Yes, his reasoning is almost always flawed. He lets out just enough truth to get a firm hold on it and twist it hard, as do most Jehovah's Witnesses.
[Richard Oliver] has become an unrelenting defender of the indefensible.
That is very well put Steve2.
i have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
ScenicViewer I have pointed out where they have stated that these things are facts. And if you based your estimate on something that you have no actual evidence of how can you make an educated estimate of anything.
Again you are referring to 'estimates,' but you are ignoring the question. Where did anyone say any amount was "an absolute fact?" Those are your words, not mine.
I actually asked Ms Anderson, the owner of Watchtower Documents, about this and she informed me she had purchased court documents of cases for her book she was writing and this is how the court-sealed settlement papers were sent to her.There you have answered your own question - the settlement amount in that case came from court records that were sent to her. Are you saying B. Anderson is lying? If you are please post your own settlement amounts with proof.
i have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
Richard Oliver:
They even admit that it is only an estimate but they claim it is based on previous settlements, but no one knows what the previous settlements are.
You previously stated that it was being claimed "as an absolute fact." Have you, as is your usual technique, exaggerated slightly to make those who oppose Watchtower look incompetent people who make up lies?
Where exactly did the above mentioned (B. Anderson, JWfacts, JWsurvey, and now you've thrown in Silentlambs) state an unsubstantiated amount as an absolute fact, as you claimed?
Your exaggerations don't win you much respect.
Yeah outlaw at least I can speak and don't rely on memes and can't make a coherent argument.
Now I'm beginning to get it.
i have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
... at least I can speak ... and can't make a coherent argument.
Are you sure you said what you meant to say, you can't make a coherent argument?
i have a legitimate question and i am not trying to start a fight.
i keep reading that there were 6 child abuse lawsuits that settled for 13 million dollars.
how do people like barbara anderson or jwsurvey or jwfacts come up with this number?
Questioning someone who states something as an absolute fact to show proof how dare I.
Did B. Anderson, JWFacts, or JWsurvey state a sealed amount as "an absolute fact?" If they did please give references, links, etc.
