Posts by ScenicViewer

posted

87
California Elder Arrested
by James Jack in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
ScenicViewer

Fisherman: You haven't responded to any of my questions...
That of course if your usual refrain. Your technique of refusing to answer direct and simple questions, while attempting to deflect by accusing others of not answering your questions, is what I have become accustomed to by your posts.
It was you that posted the link, and you have been asked what your point was again and again, but somehow, in your mind, I have to explain the point.
you refuse to listen to me...
Actually I would love to listen to you, if you only had it in you to not be evasive.
87
California Elder Arrested
by James Jack in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
ScenicViewer

Fisherman: The related JW elder worked for the police, so did the detectives, they were both charged with a crime. So what?
So what? Do you mean there is no point? You are the one who posted the link, and we are still waiting for you to explain why. ~~Surely you must have had a point.~~
87
California Elder Arrested
by James Jack in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
ScenicViewer

dubstepped: Why cast your pearls before swine? Fisherman isn't worth your arguments.
There is a lot of truth in what you say in your excellent post.
The reason I occasionally reply to Fisherman is for the benefit of other readers, new ones that may not yet be onto his misleading argumentative style and evasive tactics.
87
California Elder Arrested
by James Jack in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
ScenicViewer

Fisherman: If you probably haven't figured it out yet, not all 'sexual misbehavior' ( a Midemeanor ) is rape ( a Felony),
As is your style, you refuse to acknowledge that all rape is sexual misbehavior, just as all swine are animals unless the word is used metaphorically (reference to your previous post). Your misrepresentations change nothing. At no time did I say that all sexual misbehavior is rape, as your constant twists try to mislead readers into thinking.
And you still refuse to address the question put to you a few times here, which is Why post an off subject link to detectives charged with rape, which is sexual misbehavior regardless of how you need to see it, in a thread about a JW elder who was arrested over criminal sexual charges? One poster suggested it was to try to lessen the blow of how bad JWs can be, a left handed attempt at defending JWs, and I agree.
Do you care to answer it now? Based on your past posts I won't be holding my breath waiting for a straight answer. Yes, you are running on empty as a JW defender.
87
California Elder Arrested
by James Jack in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
ScenicViewer

Fisherman: No I am not. Not all animals are swine.
As mentioned, you are running on empty.
87
California Elder Arrested
by James Jack in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
ScenicViewer

Fisherman: Not all sexual misbehavior is as serious as rape and not all indictments result in an adjudication of "guilty."
Again you are trying to cloud the issue. All rape is sexual misbehavior.
87
California Elder Arrested
by James Jack in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
ScenicViewer

Fisherman: Wrong. Cops were indicted for rape, not sexual misbehavior. And they are not "being guilty."
You are actually arguing that rape isn't sexual misbehavior?
Sure, just like being on this 'apostate' site isn't a violation of Watchtower teaching.
Creating a cloud of senseless confusion by parsing words, simply to avoid answering direct questions is your whole point - And the question was, What is the point of posting an article about police detectives raping someone on this thread?
You are running on empty Fisherman.
87
California Elder Arrested
by James Jack in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
crime.

daniel macias said.. investigators learned that ramos was an elder at a jehovah’s witnesses church in the 4000 block of west mckinley avenue.

there, he met a teen girl and her family three years ago.. .
ScenicViewer

@ Fisherman
I'm curious too, why did you link to an article about police detectives being guilty of sexual misbehavior in a thread about a JW elder molesting an underage teenager and being arrested for it?
Is it to prove that JWs are no worse than 'wordly' people?
31
Big xJW scandal
by Charlotte in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
.
ScenicViewer

Like others, I have no idea what you are saying in this post. But I think I did get this part...
and the sex with the girl was with tongue and finger, not traditional. No! not sex! must stay married!
That's nonsense. JWs consider fornication to be any kind of sex between unmarried people (and in other situations too); it can be performed with the fingers or tongue. Only the sex organ of one individual need be included for JWs to call it sex. If it happened it is definitely fornication in JWs eyes, and it is grounds for divorce.
Where are you getting this?
Never mind.
20
It's been a GREAT week for me!
by dubstepped in
1. jw
2. experiences
so as some of you know i have a podcast called this jw life.

i put my story out there in 9 parts, and i've had lots of great experiences so far and met lots of nice people and i've made new internet friends, even some in person.

this last seven days though has been soooooo cool!.
ScenicViewer

An excellent post! I haven't seen your podcasts but I plan on watching them all now.
It seems that every time I go onto Youtube new broadcasts pop up from ex-JWs - I can't believe how many there are. They are quality people, putting out great videos, revealing the truth about a horrid organization, and getting results
Is there still anyone out there who thinks that the internet isn't killing Watchtower?