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  Governing Body Just got Spanked

  by Bill Covert in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yesterday in watchtower documents there was published "flawed decrees conceal criminals.

  barbara anderson examined the rnwt revision of lev.5:1 and revealed the wtb&ts to be deceptive as to applying it to congregation members being required to "tattle" on their brothers to expose sin.

  she shows that is just not so as lev.5:1 has nothing to do with tattling.

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  ScenicViewer

  That letter was WAY too long and poorly written (I didn't finish it), although you probably have legitimate points to make.

  I'll get the information from Barbara Andersen's site.
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  JW stance on blood transfusions for animals?

  by phats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  our dog needed some serius surgery recently & my wife (still in) was very concerned that if he needed a blood transfusion she thought this would constitute a misuse of blood.

  i was stunned as never heard of this.. is this a thing?

  i left 12 years ago & wondered if it's always been or introduced in the years after my leaving.. any info would be great.. phats.

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  ScenicViewer

  Double post.

  
  

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  JW stance on blood transfusions for animals?

  by phats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  our dog needed some serius surgery recently & my wife (still in) was very concerned that if he needed a blood transfusion she thought this would constitute a misuse of blood.

  i was stunned as never heard of this.. is this a thing?

  i left 12 years ago & wondered if it's always been or introduced in the years after my leaving.. any info would be great.. phats.

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  ScenicViewer

  "...To use blood for transfusion purposes, even in the case of an animal, would be improper. The Bible is very clear in showing that blood should not be eaten..." Watchtower 1964 2/15 p.127

  
  

  Watchtower's main argument against transfusion is that eating blood and transfusing blood are the same thing - you are "consuming" it either way. Why does Watchtower think this should apply to animals, since eating other animals, including the blood, is a way of life in the animal kingdom (as illustrated by compound complex's cat and mouse story above).

  Not eating blood only applies to humans. I can't see a shred of logic to prohibiting transfusion for animals.

  
  

  
  

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  They have a point...

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week in the sunday meeting a sister made a comment and collapsed, a massive heart attack.

  one of the young brothers is a fireman and he gave her mouth mouth and according to the doctor this saved her life.

  so if she had missed the meeting that day she would have surly died because her husband is not in great health.

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  ScenicViewer

  I can see you folks are not sold on the idea of not forsaking the assembling of ourselves..

  You can't draw sweeping conclusions based on isolated events. 'Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves' and the example of a woman having a heart attack at a KH are completely unrelated. Your conclusion that "So it shows how important are the meetings.." is without merit, it's false logic.

  Did you not notice Jwfacts remarks about the woman killed after the memorial? He was making the point that isolated events don't prove anything.
  
  
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  Major Article in Today's Philadelphia Inquirer on JW Child Abuse

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.philly.com/philly/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sexual-abuse-children-beliefs-rules.html.

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  ScenicViewer

  Well written.

  In addition to Watchtower's child sex abuse policies the author managed to work in the bad effects of organized shunning as well as the no blood transfusion issue, which resulted in a mother's death.

  It was very good negative exposure!
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  I think you should know about this man. After all, he changed your life!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  william miller.

  do you know how important this man has been to your life?.

  do you know your life would have been entirely different (without a doubt) had he not lived?.

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  ScenicViewer

  Oops, double post.
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  I think you should know about this man. After all, he changed your life!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  william miller.

  do you know how important this man has been to your life?.

  do you know your life would have been entirely different (without a doubt) had he not lived?.

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  ScenicViewer

  Watch Tower didn't stop their endearment to William Miller till c. 1926, the last reference to Father Miller (not simply Brother Miller)

  Do you have that reference handy? Would love to see what it says.
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  What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

  he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

  interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

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  ScenicViewer

  "Even the very worst Jehovah's Witness is better than the very best worldly person."

  I've heard this a few times. One of them was from the platform at a meeting.
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  Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

  in one sentence tell why you left the org.

  not 2 sentences.

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  ScenicViewer

  I left because of Organizational dishonesty. (Watchtower is one of the most dishonest religions organizations ever invented by man.)
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  Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.

  a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.

  apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?

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  ScenicViewer

  Strange they should argue over something there's a clear WT ruling on.

  It's clear but a little vague at the same time. It's the Watchtower way!

  From freddo's post:

  Whether a disfellowshipped person sits next to a relative or next to any other member of the congregation should not be a cause for concern as long as he behaves properly.

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  If all present, including faithful relatives, are endeavoring to respect Bible principles relating to disfellowshipping, and it is not becoming a cause for stumbling to the brothers

  Assuming that all the elders were aware of the quoted article there could have been disagreement over whether the DF'd person was behaving properly, whether the relatives were "endeavoring to respect Bible principles" regarding DF'd people (watchtower speak for no undue association, I suppose), or whether it was stumbling others.

  There is plenty of room there for interpretation and disagreement.