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  Medical prohibitions leading to documented loss

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  other than general cases involving blood prohibitions...are you aware of instances of jws or exjws who have suffered health issues as a result of obedience to wts medical dictates?.

  i'm thinking specifically of those who were denied vaccinations or organ transplants and i would also include those who were denied hemophelac preparations from 1975 - 1978.. any known or documented examples would be appreciated..

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  Hoser: I would say that the jw ban on using tobacco has been a benefit to health

  There is another side to this. It brings to mind another medical prohibition that has caused suffering for some - not being allowed to use a Nicotine Patch (I think it's called). Some people use them to help to break the smoking habit, but Watchtower prohibited their use years ago, saying we must rely on "holy spirit" to give up tobacco.

  Some could not break the habit and were disfellowshipped. There are some people who can't cope with being shunned and isolated which sometimes leads to suicide.

  I doubt there is any way that deaths from banning the Nicotine Patch can be tracked, but it's another harmful Watchtower medical directive.

  (Has this prohibition changed in recent years?)
  
  
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  • I say we call the WT collapse imminent, eminent and immanent: near, grand, and all encompassing!

    Nice! I did not know there were 3 kinds of imminents with various spellings and different meanings. This place gives you a better education than reading 4 years of the Awake!
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  Warwick HQ wooden "carved image" on wall - please verify using QR reader

  by Fay Dehr in

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  2. scandals

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  Who, or What do they really "worship"?

  Good question. I believe that the Organization, (jw dot org), is the golden calf that JWs really worship. Tagging Jehovah's name on to their religion is simply a sales pitch.
  
  
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  A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Incognito in

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  2. friends

  i haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).

  cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.

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  ScenicViewer

  Apparently broadcast times vary. I found it at 10PM Tue night, Pacific Time. (California on Comcast).

  Here is the description of the broadcast...

  Former Jehovah's Witness Romy Maple, a survivor of child sexual abuse, embarks on a journey to uncover why her pleas for justice were systematically ignored by top members of the organization.

  
  
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  Paul Joseph Watson has a JW in Latest Video ?

  by JW_Researcher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at 5:00 there is a screen capture of someone who mentions "jehovah our god" on a video about the "n word.".

  https://yadi.sk/i/zaflduly3wauks.

  video topic aside, if she's an active jw...she probably shouldn't we wading into this pool..

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  Hey thanks! Having a look now.
  
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  Paul Joseph Watson has a JW in Latest Video ?

  by JW_Researcher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at 5:00 there is a screen capture of someone who mentions "jehovah our god" on a video about the "n word.".

  https://yadi.sk/i/zaflduly3wauks.

  video topic aside, if she's an active jw...she probably shouldn't we wading into this pool..

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  I am wondering, did you link to the right video? I am getting the recent Convention video and it doesn't quite go to 5:00. I'm very curious to see the one you mention in your post.
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  Governing Body Just got Spanked

  by Bill Covert in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yesterday in watchtower documents there was published "flawed decrees conceal criminals.

  barbara anderson examined the rnwt revision of lev.5:1 and revealed the wtb&ts to be deceptive as to applying it to congregation members being required to "tattle" on their brothers to expose sin.

  she shows that is just not so as lev.5:1 has nothing to do with tattling.

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  That letter was WAY too long and poorly written (I didn't finish it), although you probably have legitimate points to make.

  I'll get the information from Barbara Andersen's site.
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  JW stance on blood transfusions for animals?

  by phats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  our dog needed some serius surgery recently & my wife (still in) was very concerned that if he needed a blood transfusion she thought this would constitute a misuse of blood.

  i was stunned as never heard of this.. is this a thing?

  i left 12 years ago & wondered if it's always been or introduced in the years after my leaving.. any info would be great.. phats.

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  Double post.

  
  

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  JW stance on blood transfusions for animals?

  by phats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  our dog needed some serius surgery recently & my wife (still in) was very concerned that if he needed a blood transfusion she thought this would constitute a misuse of blood.

  i was stunned as never heard of this.. is this a thing?

  i left 12 years ago & wondered if it's always been or introduced in the years after my leaving.. any info would be great.. phats.

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  ScenicViewer

  "...To use blood for transfusion purposes, even in the case of an animal, would be improper. The Bible is very clear in showing that blood should not be eaten..." Watchtower 1964 2/15 p.127

  
  

  Watchtower's main argument against transfusion is that eating blood and transfusing blood are the same thing - you are "consuming" it either way. Why does Watchtower think this should apply to animals, since eating other animals, including the blood, is a way of life in the animal kingdom (as illustrated by compound complex's cat and mouse story above).

  Not eating blood only applies to humans. I can't see a shred of logic to prohibiting transfusion for animals.

  
  

  
  

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  They have a point...

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week in the sunday meeting a sister made a comment and collapsed, a massive heart attack.

  one of the young brothers is a fireman and he gave her mouth mouth and according to the doctor this saved her life.

  so if she had missed the meeting that day she would have surly died because her husband is not in great health.

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  ScenicViewer

  I can see you folks are not sold on the idea of not forsaking the assembling of ourselves..

  You can't draw sweeping conclusions based on isolated events. 'Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves' and the example of a woman having a heart attack at a KH are completely unrelated. Your conclusion that "So it shows how important are the meetings.." is without merit, it's false logic.

  Did you not notice Jwfacts remarks about the woman killed after the memorial? He was making the point that isolated events don't prove anything.