Posts by ScenicViewer

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U.S. Supreme Court Denies Watchtower’s Certiorari Plea

by Jerome56 in

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/19-40.html.

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There have been strong rumors for years that Ted Jaracz was removed from his position in the Australian Branch for sexually molesting a child. Years later a woman, in a protest outside one of the Society's properties, accused him of molesting her years prior. She later died and the matter went nowhere.

After being dismissed from the Australian Branch Jaracz later became a Governing Body member.

The rumors persist but there is still no hard proof. The suspicion is that his name may be on the data base of child molester information that the Organization has compiled.

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READ: Watchtower's SCOTUS petition

by Corney in

on june 25, 2019 watchtower ny filed petition for a writ of certiorari in the u.s. supreme court.

the society asks to reconsider a $4 million judgment against it in a california child abuse case.

docket: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/19-40.html .

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Thank you for the update Corney. It's an important one!

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Netflix “Explained: Cults”

by Butterfly607 in

has anyone else seen the netflix documentary “explained: cults”?

i thought it was well done.

i feel like a jw might watch it and feel uncomfortable as the show goes through the definition of cults and then the step by step indoctrination process.

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I cant find it on my netflix

Did you use Netflix's search function? Type in "Explained," which is the name of the series. The episode on cults is one of the latest ones. It's worth seeing and I hope you can find it.

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Netflix “Explained: Cults”

by Butterfly607 in

has anyone else seen the netflix documentary “explained: cults”?

i thought it was well done.

i feel like a jw might watch it and feel uncomfortable as the show goes through the definition of cults and then the step by step indoctrination process.

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I heard that Jehovahs witnesses were briefly mentioned on a piece of text or a written list...

Yes they were.

The show explains that an area from Albany to Buffalo, known as the "burned over district," was the birth place of many new religions. The United States was particularrly receptive to new religious groups, although some had sprung up in the Middle East, Europe, and India, usually as a reaction to some sort of social or political turmoil.

Jehovah's Witnesses are included in the chart shown. JWs and Seventh Day Adventists both sprang from the Millerite branch.

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NEW ARTICLE ABOUT CHILD SEX ABUSES

by Eliseo in

an astonishing article has been published yesterday by the italian newspaper l’indro .

https://www.lindro.it/testimoni-di-geova-il-paradiso-in-terra-per-pedofili/.

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Thank you Eliseo for the article, and Earnest for the translation.

This is an excellent article that touches all the bases, worldwide, on the Jehovah's Witness problems with child molesting. Lots of information is covered.

(Sorry about the bad formatting below. I can't seem to get it right.)

- The pedophile database collected from 1997 forward

- Law suits in the United States

- The $35 million judgement in Montana

- New U.S. laws extending the statute of limitations for victims

- New law in New York state allowing past victims of abuse a year to file suit

- Governing Body members individually being sued
- Australian Royal Commission Investigation

- Watchtower's failure to participate in schemes to compensate victims

- Directive from Watchtower to elders to destroy records

- Investigation (a Royal Commission Investigation??) in the U.K.

- A new Royal Commission investigation in New Zealand

- The $60 million class action suit in Canada

- Watchtower's internal methods of handling pedophile cases

- Watchtower's failure to report pedophiles to police

- The two-witness rule followed to establish whether abuse really happened

- Watchtower's methods of intimidating victims into silence

- Police raids on Watchtower's Dutch headquarters

- A similar investigation and raid in Belgium

- More

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one picture too far ( fetched)

by waton in

july 2019 wt mag.

study article 27, to sept 8 (last weak) sic intended.

page 5. .

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On the way to a meeting, a family practices singing Kingdom songs in the car

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highlights from Circuit Overseer Guidelines

by neat blue dog in

i just finished looking through the circuit overseer manual, so here are some highlights.

first up, regarding circuit assemblies:.

if a brother is so extremely overweight that others would be distracted if he had a part on the program, good judgment would need to be used in deciding whether to give him an assignment.

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If there is any doubt about an experience, it should not be used.

Like anything having to do with Andre.

Of course COs didn't make him up, the Organization did.

On occasion, circuit overseers have related experiences that were inaccurate or fictitious.

I wonder where COs learned to do that. The leaders of this religion should take their own advice.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/215312/okay-believe-andre-thing-now

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250140/hes-back-andre-im-afraid-hes-mourning

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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

jw
friends

the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.

watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!

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That book seems to be available on Ebay or Amazon (used, good condition) in the price range of $12 to $13 with free shipping. I just ordered one myself.

Wonderment, thanks for the information!

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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

jw
friends

the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.

watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!

".

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slimboyfat, Where can I send you the photo-copies of Robert Countess' book on the divine name?

Wonderment, do you mind giving the name of that book?

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Hitting the fan: CD epidemic at my Hall

by neat blue dog in

yesterday my congregation met for field service and the elder taking the lead did something not so smart: he brought up the child abuse situation and the recent news articles hitting local news across the country.

he said 'you can see that the persecution is really coming' and that we should be ready if someone complains about it at the door.

(funny how it's persecution when it's us and righteous judgment when it happens to the other churches.

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My brother in law, who was an elder when the Dateline episode on JW child abuse came out, said the WT instructed them to tell the congregation not to watch it.

I remember that. At the time someone in my congregation had recorded the episode on a VHS tape. The tape was being passed around and I wanted to watch it. However the talk was given which shut down viewing the tape.

I didn't know anything about the child molestation issues until many years later when I found the Dateline broadcast, along with others from around the world, on Youtube.