Posts by ScenicViewer

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Tony Morris Needs Money

by Vanderhoven7 in

looking for a laugh.... listen to this gal's response to tony's encouragement to donate.. https://youtu.be/mvjv__r7xaw.

Does anyone have a copy of the Jan 1st 1989 Watchtower I can buy

by mickbobcat in

i want to buy a copy not a copy of one but the actual copy of a 1989 jan 1st watchtower.

let me know i would like to have one to show someone i am talking to about it.

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ScenicViewer

Here is a side by side comparison of what was said in the original magazine vs the bound volume.

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GB / Wives ,wont voluntarily give up their lifestyle

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

just an observation viewing some of their on camera appearances , and their arrogance believing they are the only one`s used by god to reach and teach the people ,despite what gj said at the arc on the subject.. no doubt the gb men wear designer tailor made suits from the best tailors in nys ?

and their wives adequately provided for in a similar way ?

nothing from kmart or target ,walmart or whatever.. shoes are probably made from form fit cobblers to fit the individual ?

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Lloyd Evans did a video a few years ago regarding a GB member who flew Business Class. As I recall someone at the airline recognized the GB person. You would have to do a search to find it. I will do it but it will have to wait, since I'm on my way to work. You may well beat me to it.

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“The Right to Shun: Ghent’s Misguided Jehovah’s Witness Decision“ Matthew P. Cavedon

by AndersonsInfo in

https://canopyforum.org/2021/04/19/the-right-to-shun-ghents-misguided-jehovahs-witness-decision/.

in march, the criminal court of ghent, belgium fined the congregation of jehovah’s witnesses (jw) for “inciting discrimination and hatred or violence against former members.” the case centered on the jw practice of “disfellowshipping.” while the court’s sensitivity to the individual impact of shunning is laudable, its decision regrettably assaults the freedoms of religion and association.. first, some background on jw beliefs and disfellowshipping.

jw was founded in the united states over a century ago and is headquartered in new york state.

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Anony Mous:

You (currently) still have the right to shun, you just can’t say that other people are evil.

Yes, that was exactly my point. I am also aware of hate speech laws, it's just it's very hard to enforce them 100%, especially in a religious setting.

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“The Right to Shun: Ghent’s Misguided Jehovah’s Witness Decision“ Matthew P. Cavedon

by AndersonsInfo in

https://canopyforum.org/2021/04/19/the-right-to-shun-ghents-misguided-jehovahs-witness-decision/.

in march, the criminal court of ghent, belgium fined the congregation of jehovah’s witnesses (jw) for “inciting discrimination and hatred or violence against former members.” the case centered on the jw practice of “disfellowshipping.” while the court’s sensitivity to the individual impact of shunning is laudable, its decision regrettably assaults the freedoms of religion and association.. first, some background on jw beliefs and disfellowshipping.

jw was founded in the united states over a century ago and is headquartered in new york state.

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From the article...

Said their [JW] attorney: “It’s not up to the court to hand down a decision about interpersonal relationships.

Yet that is exactly what the Watchtower Organization itself does. Disfellowshipping, and the shunning that follows, is an organizational policy that prohibits interpersonal relationships. This is another case of the pot (Watchtower) calling the kettle (the court or anyone else) black.

How do you legislate against it? That is a tough one. You can have hate laws, but keeping them enforced completely would be virtually impossible ... especially where religion is involved.

I do believe the Ghent court's decision is a step in the right direction even if it can't be completely enforced.

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IICSA report on child protection in religious and organised settings “rightly draws attention” to the Jehovah's Witness Organisation

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.hughjames.com/blog/iicsa-report-of-child-protection-in-religious-and-organised-settings-%e2%80%9crightly-draws-attention%e2%80%9d-to-the-jehovahs-witness-organisation.

the independent inquiry into child sex abuse (iicsa) has published its report on child protection in religious and organised settings.

it rightly draws attention to the jehovah’s witnesses organisation, according to alan collins, one of the best known and experienced abuse lawyers.. iicsa found children are not adequately protected from the risk of child sexual abuse in the jehovah’s witness organisation and the evidence demonstrates that it fails to adequately address child sex abuse allegations.. commenting on today’s report, alan collins, head of the hugh james abuse team said:.

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From the article...

“It would be good for you as a parent to ask yourself, ‘Does my church tolerate or cover up child abuse? Is my religion holding firmly to high moral principles?’ Answers to such questions could help you to make wise choices in protecting your children." (Awake! magazine, 8th April 1999)

That is typical of the Watchtower Organization, condemning other churches for doing the same thing that Watchtower itself does! The article referenced in the opening post recognizes this as a definite "conflict of interest."

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Don’t Trust the Courts! Splane’s Latest Anti-Apostate Talk

by StephaneLaliberte in

david splane’s talk “put up a hard fight for the faith” was that last talk presented on the saturday of the annual convention.

this talk was to largely address apostates and restated ideas and arguments often presented before.

however, this year, watchtower is spending more time in disqualifying negative findings originating from secular courts and here is the segment of interest here: .

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Watchtower has been brutal against other churches that have had pedophile issues, particularly the Catholic pedophile priests.

Years ago when the Catholic issue became public Watchtower mentioned it frequently in their literature, quoting media reports, judges, attorneys and other sources to prove how bad the Catholic Church was.

But now, when the same media, the same courts, etc are reporting the same thing about Jehovah's Witnesses, all of a sudden you can't believe anything they say because they are all controlled by Satan.

Hmm ... double standard on Watchtower's part?

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Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

by LoveUniHateExams in

jw
friends

hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

how many jabs have you had?.

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Moderna, both shots, last one in late March.

No pain at all, no sickness, but had a slight loss of taste, which is just now coming back. Not complaining in the least!

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Which WT book (or booklet) has illustrations of prehistoric animals?

by Disillusioned JW in

i remember that i once saw a wt book (or maybe a booklet) which in depicting one or two of the creative days of genesis had illustrations depicting now extinct prehistoric animals.

which publication was that?

i think the illustrations were of a 1950s or 1960s style.. update: i found it.

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...in chapter 3.

Actually make that ch 4, pp 57 and 60.

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Which WT book (or booklet) has illustrations of prehistoric animals?

by Disillusioned JW in

i remember that i once saw a wt book (or maybe a booklet) which in depicting one or two of the creative days of genesis had illustrations depicting now extinct prehistoric animals.

which publication was that?

i think the illustrations were of a 1950s or 1960s style.. update: i found it.

ScenicViewer

Didn’t the green bible have a picture of a dinosaur on the inside of the cover?

I think so. I believe that dinosaur drowning in Noah's flood