Posts by ScenicViewer

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Former Elder, Pioneer and WT Writer Earns 9 Science Degrees - Jerry Bergman, Ph.D., BiologyJerry Bergman, Ph.D., Biology

by Sea Breeze in

jerry bergman, ph.d., biology.

biography.

jerry bergman has taught biology, genetics, chemistry, biochemistry, anthropology, geology, and microbiology at northwest state college in archbold oh for over 25 years.

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Vienne...

You are trying to relieve my complaint about Bergman by finding something against my mother. That is disreputable. Probably explains why you are no longer a Witness. (bold added)

Are you saying that leaving the JW religion makes a person disreputable, but remaining a Witness would make a person reputable? After learning of the many flaws and the dishonesty in the religion it seems the opposite would be true - remaining in the religion would make a person disreputable.

Please explain.

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Congregation in PA sues over mandatory reporting

by Corney in

ivy hill congregation of jehovah's witnesses is currently suing the pa department of human services.

it requests "a declaration that its elders are entitled to" clergy privilege, or, in the alternative,.

to the extent that the clergyman privilege is determined to exclude its elders on the basis that they are "members of [a] religious organization[] in which members other than the leader thereof are deemed clergymen or ministers," the court declare the statute to be unconstitutional.

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@ Smiles,

Would you care to supply a page number for that Watchtower quote? Thanks.

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Are you open to having a count as to how many ex-JW`s on this site are vaccinated x2 jabs. ?

by smiddy3 in

i`ll go first ,i have my vaccinated 2 jabs for the elderly.. if i`m not around in the next 3 months you will know why ..

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Moderna, both shots.

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Witnesses were Anti vaccine till 1950!

by Witness 007 in

"brother mcmillan wrote "faith on the march" about his wonderful life at bethel.

he wrote of an incident in 1943 where a group of witnesses in jail for refusing military service were against getting vaccinated and he came to the rescue visiting them and telling them it was ok. the reason for this was "the golden age" magazine in the 1920's describes vaccines as puss filled poison...so they were following their watchtower training..

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Accidental post.

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Tony Morris Needs Money

by Vanderhoven7 in

looking for a laugh.... listen to this gal's response to tony's encouragement to donate.. https://youtu.be/mvjv__r7xaw.

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That WAS worth a good laugh. Thanks!

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Does anyone have a copy of the Jan 1st 1989 Watchtower I can buy

by mickbobcat in

i want to buy a copy not a copy of one but the actual copy of a 1989 jan 1st watchtower.

let me know i would like to have one to show someone i am talking to about it.

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Here is a side by side comparison of what was said in the original magazine vs the bound volume.

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GB / Wives ,wont voluntarily give up their lifestyle

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

just an observation viewing some of their on camera appearances , and their arrogance believing they are the only one`s used by god to reach and teach the people ,despite what gj said at the arc on the subject.. no doubt the gb men wear designer tailor made suits from the best tailors in nys ?

and their wives adequately provided for in a similar way ?

nothing from kmart or target ,walmart or whatever.. shoes are probably made from form fit cobblers to fit the individual ?

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Lloyd Evans did a video a few years ago regarding a GB member who flew Business Class. As I recall someone at the airline recognized the GB person. You would have to do a search to find it. I will do it but it will have to wait, since I'm on my way to work. You may well beat me to it.

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“The Right to Shun: Ghent’s Misguided Jehovah’s Witness Decision“ Matthew P. Cavedon

by AndersonsInfo in

https://canopyforum.org/2021/04/19/the-right-to-shun-ghents-misguided-jehovahs-witness-decision/.

in march, the criminal court of ghent, belgium fined the congregation of jehovah’s witnesses (jw) for “inciting discrimination and hatred or violence against former members.” the case centered on the jw practice of “disfellowshipping.” while the court’s sensitivity to the individual impact of shunning is laudable, its decision regrettably assaults the freedoms of religion and association.. first, some background on jw beliefs and disfellowshipping.

jw was founded in the united states over a century ago and is headquartered in new york state.

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Anony Mous:

You (currently) still have the right to shun, you just can’t say that other people are evil.

Yes, that was exactly my point. I am also aware of hate speech laws, it's just it's very hard to enforce them 100%, especially in a religious setting.

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“The Right to Shun: Ghent’s Misguided Jehovah’s Witness Decision“ Matthew P. Cavedon

by AndersonsInfo in

https://canopyforum.org/2021/04/19/the-right-to-shun-ghents-misguided-jehovahs-witness-decision/.

in march, the criminal court of ghent, belgium fined the congregation of jehovah’s witnesses (jw) for “inciting discrimination and hatred or violence against former members.” the case centered on the jw practice of “disfellowshipping.” while the court’s sensitivity to the individual impact of shunning is laudable, its decision regrettably assaults the freedoms of religion and association.. first, some background on jw beliefs and disfellowshipping.

jw was founded in the united states over a century ago and is headquartered in new york state.

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From the article...

Said their [JW] attorney: “It’s not up to the court to hand down a decision about interpersonal relationships.

Yet that is exactly what the Watchtower Organization itself does. Disfellowshipping, and the shunning that follows, is an organizational policy that prohibits interpersonal relationships. This is another case of the pot (Watchtower) calling the kettle (the court or anyone else) black.

How do you legislate against it? That is a tough one. You can have hate laws, but keeping them enforced completely would be virtually impossible ... especially where religion is involved.

I do believe the Ghent court's decision is a step in the right direction even if it can't be completely enforced.

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IICSA report on child protection in religious and organised settings “rightly draws attention” to the Jehovah's Witness Organisation

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.hughjames.com/blog/iicsa-report-of-child-protection-in-religious-and-organised-settings-%e2%80%9crightly-draws-attention%e2%80%9d-to-the-jehovahs-witness-organisation.

the independent inquiry into child sex abuse (iicsa) has published its report on child protection in religious and organised settings.

it rightly draws attention to the jehovah’s witnesses organisation, according to alan collins, one of the best known and experienced abuse lawyers.. iicsa found children are not adequately protected from the risk of child sexual abuse in the jehovah’s witness organisation and the evidence demonstrates that it fails to adequately address child sex abuse allegations.. commenting on today’s report, alan collins, head of the hugh james abuse team said:.

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From the article...

“It would be good for you as a parent to ask yourself, ‘Does my church tolerate or cover up child abuse? Is my religion holding firmly to high moral principles?’ Answers to such questions could help you to make wise choices in protecting your children." (Awake! magazine, 8th April 1999)

That is typical of the Watchtower Organization, condemning other churches for doing the same thing that Watchtower itself does! The article referenced in the opening post recognizes this as a definite "conflict of interest."