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  Did YOU Change In Your Personality After You Left The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  we knock a lot of things about the witnesses.

  i wonder if we're really all that much different in our personalities as exjws.. .

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  ScenicViewer

  White Dove said, "Even churches say to hate the sin but love the sinner.'

  Speaking of hating the person, here is a comment from the Watchtower.

  W 7-15-61 p420 “Jesus encouraged his followers to love their enemies, but God's Word also says to "hate what is bad." When a person persists in a way of badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of his make-up, then in order to hate what is bad a Christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked.” (Emphasis added)

  Although the Watchtower usually gives lip service to the concept of hating the act, not the person, hate by way of actions is almost always there.

  The above Watchtower quote is a not-so-common glimpse into the true nature of the Society...in writting!
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  Selective Memory

  by EmptyInside in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know if this is the case with everyone.

  but,most jehovah's witnesses i know seem to have selective memory.

  they will deny straight to your face that in 1995 ,the generation, was explained to be the wicked contemporaries.

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  Witnesses' memories are always convenient, unless they are not up on the latest, as you pointed out. What is embarrassing is virtually always forgotten.
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6wyVrxX1hE

  by Clint Bussey in

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  2. scandals
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  ScenicViewer

  From the book "Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry", p151, par1
  
  "Concerning those who renounced their Christian faith in his day, the apostle John wrote: “They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us.” (1John 2:19) Also, a person might renounce his place in the Christian congregation by his actions, such as by becoming part of a secular organization the objective of which is contrary to the Bible and, hence, is under judgment by Jehovah God. (Compare Revelation 19:17-21; Isaiah 2:4) So if a person who is a Christian chooses to join those who are disapproved by God, it would be fitting for the congregation to acknowledge by a brief announcement that he has disassociated himself and is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Such a person would be viewed in the same way as a disfellowshipped person." (Bold added)

  
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  Did YOU Change In Your Personality After You Left The Organization?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we knock a lot of things about the witnesses.

  i wonder if we're really all that much different in our personalities as exjws.. .

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  ScenicViewer

  Definitely, I got my old personality back, and it's still progressing. I am happier, smilier, friendlier with people, much more accepting of people, more open to their point of view, less judgemental mentally toward people (not that I said much when in the org, but I thought negative things, because of WTS beliefs and teachings, that I don't think now).

  When in, I was getting more and more down, quieter, more withdrawn. It was happening because I just couldn't pretend to accept all the Watchtower concepts anymore. I had quit the TM School, even though people enjoyed my talks...I put much time, effort and thought into them.

  Now I am free, and it feels so good! I find myself laughing a lot these days. I find humor in many things. This was part of me for a long time, but it was vanishing more and more the longer I stayed in, pretending, going through the motions. What a downer it is to have to pretend when things are dreadfully wrong.

  No longer do I have to hear an assembly speaker say to the audience, "You are God's happy people," and that is a great thing.
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  Elders Talk On Camera About WT/ UN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6wyVrxX1hE

  by Clint Bussey in

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  2. scandals
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  ScenicViewer

  Great video. Shows 2 elders in complete denial, lying that the Society joined the UN. Will the lies of this organization never stop?

  (the URL is in the title of the OP)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6wyVrxX1hE
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  JWs and hard times

  by xelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the developed world is having hard economic times.

  so, for a while now jw's have been voicing the familiar "it can't go on...things are so hard".

  i'm in the usa, and the economics are tough, relative to this country.

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  St George of England said,

  "Russell wrote in the late 1890's that conditions were so bad he couldn't see how the world could possibly continue on until 1914."

  I've read that somewhere. Does anybody have the reference where I can find it?

  It's a remark so often repeated by JWs, and it goes back virtually to the beginning of the religion.
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  My Letter to local Newspapaer - Your Feedback Please?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my local congregation has been in the news this week following a successful application for planning permission for a quick build.

  a local vicar objected because the application described it as a building for "christain worship".. .

  vicar fury at new home for jehovahs .

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  ScenicViewer

  Cofty, your letter if far better than the other one!
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  My Letter to local Newspapaer - Your Feedback Please?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my local congregation has been in the news this week following a successful application for planning permission for a quick build.

  a local vicar objected because the application described it as a building for "christain worship".. .

  vicar fury at new home for jehovahs .

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  ScenicViewer

  Congrats Cofty on a job well done! Will we be able to see the paper online?
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  How many rules to JW´s have? Gregorson says 1,777

  by Botzwana in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://thegoverningbody.org/holy-walls-and-the-winds-of-change-part-1/#more-1047.

  is that true?

  i have never counted them up but it would be so interesting to see considering the israelites only had 600....

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  ScenicViewer

  Randy Watters made reference to the 1,177 rules (not 1,777) in his resignation letter to the GB.

  "[Albert Schroeder] holds up the Branch Organization Procedure book and pointed out it's 1,177 rules and regulations, knowing full well what Romans 7:6 says about Christians following sets of 'spiritual rules'. Then he actually admits that the beliefs of those dismissed were not an apostasy from the Bible, but from the organization! There IS a difference, isn't there?"

  This is in the 9th paragraph of the letter, located here,

  http://www.freeminds.org/life-stories/bethelites/randy-s-letter-of-resignation-to-the-governing-body.html

  (Sorry, you will have to copy and paste that into your web browser.)
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  Field Service time wasters

  by xelder in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last saturday morning, i ran to the hardware store.

  a former co (retired in a circuit provided house) was in the hardware store.

  i stopped at starbucks....more jw's.

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  Driving back and forth across town, making return visits, when they could easily be grouped together to save time.

  But saving time isn't the point, is it?