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  Zalkin

  by the girl next door in

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  2. child-abuse

  there may not be anyone on the planet that has inside information about watchtower abuse in regard to sexual child abuse than zalkin.

  he has been given a plethora of inside information but can not share it by order of the court.

  when will the courts lift this veil of protection for religious entities?

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  ...if we can keep things confidential for 5 years then it's all in the past...

  Sometimes less, as low as 2 years in some cases.
  
  
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  Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

  i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

  i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

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  I can't see much in the above image. Do you remember which publication it is in? If I have it I will check it out.
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  Bible pssssges that are immoral - Lot offering his virgin daughters to be gang raped by homosexual males

  by jambon1 in

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  tell me me more about your just & loving god..

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  evilbible.com is a great site that has a lot of this compiled and indexed.

  Thanks Rebel8 for the reference. That site is an eye opener.
  
  
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  Ex-Wife of Canadian JW Attorney Speaks to NATIONAL POST about KIDNAPPING sick JW kids

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jwn poster, uzzah, posted a link to this article in one of his older posts which he brought to the top, but i think this excellent article deserves a thread of its own.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/178981/1/interesting-phone-call-media-the-blood-issuenational post http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2041666sept.

  28, 2009. a witness accountchurch denies moving children to avoid transfusions.

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  I think the final straw was dad breaking mom's arm.

  Your Dad was an attorney who did work for Watchtower when needed, and his behavior toward your Mom was so violent that he actually broke her arm? It wasn't some kind of accident?

  I haven't listened to the broadcast on Six Screens (mentioned on another thread) or read anything of this until your posts. I am always shocked when I hear of violence in JW families. It's something I never saw but read plenty about now that I am out.
  
  
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  A request to our members living in the USA - Time Magazine

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a request to our friends living in the usa.

  im trying to track down an article printed by time magazine in which they interviewed fred franz.

  in my local library here in liverpool they have a massive bound volume collection of time going back to the 1930s.

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  mentalclarity is wrong about Russell's expectation for 1914.

  That remark hit me too, but I believe mantalclarity was simply quoting the Time Magazine article about Fred Franz; it was that article that said this...

  The next year he [Fred Franz] dropped out of the University of Cincinnati without completing his junior year; he saw no sense in remaining because the movement's founder, Charles Taze Russell, had announced Oct. 1, 1914, as the date for Christ's Second Coming.

  But you are absolutely right, C.T. Russell believed in one date only for the return of Christ and that was 1874. Until the day he died Russell believed that Christ had been invisibly present (parousia) since 1874.

  Either Time Magazine got their information mixed up or F. Franz had misled them.
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  A request to our members living in the USA - Time Magazine

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a request to our friends living in the usa.

  im trying to track down an article printed by time magazine in which they interviewed fred franz.

  in my local library here in liverpool they have a massive bound volume collection of time going back to the 1930s.

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  The perks of higher education - you have access to online library/digital journal database

  In addition, higher education gives you -- mental clarity!

  (That is a great screen name, BTW)
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  Netflix Docuseries - The Keepers

  by sillygirlforgotpassword in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  has anyone watched the netflix documentary series called "the keepers"?

  it's a true life based series about the murder of a nun and the associated coverup (church + state).

  it was riveting to see how much can be swept under the carpet (even today?!

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  I saw this a few weeks ago and you are right, it was riveting.

  Not only were two murders unsolved, one of them a Nun, but the case branched out into child sexual molestation issues by one particular Priest. When the Nun learned of the sexual molestation of one student and confronted the Priest about it she disappeared and was found murdered.

  The stalling, cover-ups, lying, etc, by the Catholic Church regarding the molestations is very similar to the same actions by Watchtower, the main difference being that Watchtower has no political clout.

  In the documentary information regarding the murders and molestations seemed to vanish when it reached the desk of the District Attorney.
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  As an Ex JW now, how would you react if you met your Bible study conductor?

  by EverApostate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a jw for 11 years , came to know ttatt and wrote my disassociation letter 5 years ago.

  since then i had been an atheist and trying all i can to spread awareness for “still in” members.

  my wife and mom are still jws and i do get along with them perfectly.

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  I would say "How was prison life?"

  Not really - I wouldn't bring that up - but he did do prison time for Fish and Game violations. Although he was an elder for many years he let greed set in, which moved him to violate laws for the profits.

  I have lost track of him and have no idea what his standing is with the religion now.
  
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  JW's Changing Tune

  by SickofLies in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i left the religion back in the early 2000's, tell you the truth it's been so long now i've been out i don't remember exactly when i left.

  i definitely used this site a lot when i first left and it was a great asset.

  when i left i somehow managed to get my parents to come with me.

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  I believe this is also why they are against holidays. The paganism thing is to hide their real motive...

  I agree wholeheartedly with your remarks. JWs accept many pagan connected practices - wedding rings, sending flowers to a funeral, playing with pinjatas at a party, etc. Holidays get the pagan label, but as you say the real reason for condemning them is to isolate JWs from other people, even their own families.

  If you think about it, when do families get together the most? At holiday and birthday times, yet JWs are forbidden to participate in such celebrations, therefore requiring them to separate from family members that are not JWs.

  This is a hideous religion. Isolation and control is it's objective. If that isn't a cult I don't know what is.
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  JW's Changing Tune

  by SickofLies in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i left the religion back in the early 2000's, tell you the truth it's been so long now i've been out i don't remember exactly when i left.

  i definitely used this site a lot when i first left and it was a great asset.

  when i left i somehow managed to get my parents to come with me.

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  ... it's more difficult for people in their 30's and older to make new friends. People by that age already have made their social circles. It's the one problem that is difficult to solve for those who leave the cult.

  It is by design.

  Watchtower keeps JWs isolated so that the only social life they have is with other JWs. The Organization plays on a very powerful human need, the need for socializing.

  If JWs were allowed to make friends outside of the Watchtower organization leaving would be easy, but Watchtower uses isolation as a tool to keep people trapped inside.

  (To me, this is a mark of a very high control cult religion.)

  I think there are many JWs who stay in for social reasons only, although they might not want to say it out loud, and even though the friendships are very artificial. In a way I don't blame them. Some people can cope better living life without strong social connections, while others need it desperately.

  But even if many stay in for social reasons, it still creates a weakened organization because their hearts are no longer in it, and usually neither is their money.