Posts by ScenicViewer

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Does anyone know how many kh's are/Have been sold?

by purrpurr in

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are we at least able to estimate?

and where are the funds from these sales going?

the official line is of course that it's to build halls in africa etcbut i don't believe it .

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This is what the speaker said regarding the properties that were to be sold...

The real estate sales around the world have been accelerated to the extent possible. We have close to 3,000 properties scattered around the globe that need to be sold, many of them smaller properties of limited value, but in total they represent a substantial amount of future income from the sale of those properties. That’s especially true of the remaining properties here in Brooklyn … These sales will contribute to helping us to transition from our current position to the revised operating budget that the Governing Body is working towards.

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Ministers are called for consultation regarding Jehovah’s Witness revelations

by Not_Culty in

https://avoidjw.org/en/news/ministers-are-called-for-consultation-regarding-jehovahs-witness-revelations/.

the jehovah’s witnesses branch office in holbæk does not want to be interviewed, but states that in some cases they go to the authorities.. the recognized religious community of jehovah’s witnesses has an internal set of rules where religious leaders can judge on everything from smoking to killing.. this is according to a secret manual for the elders – religious leaders of jehovah’s witnesses – that tv 2 has in its possession.. precisely that fact is a testament that this is a parallel legal community, one of denmark’s leading experts in religious law believes.. and now the social democrats are calling the responsible ministers for consultation:.

– for us, it is subordinate to what god you believe in.

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From the linked article...

Exclusion – or disfellowshipping, as Jehovah’s Witnesses themselves refer to it – must be seen as an expression of love, according to the organization’s own magazine “Watchtower”:
– Family members can show their love for the congregation and for the wrongdoer by respecting the disfellowshipping arrangement, it says.
This is precisely what Lisbet Christoffersen finds problematic because she believes it is at odds with the individual’s religious freedom.
– Not only for the religious community, but also for the family and all members, one vanishes into thin air. You become non-existent. It is not recognizing the individual’s religious freedom, she says.
(Bold added)

While the Watchtower organization insists on religious freedom for itself, it denies the same religious freedom to it's own followers. One can be disfellowshipped and shunned for simply disagreeing with a concept or an interpretation. Of course JWs will say that df'ing is the "loving" thing to do, per their Organizations controlling guidance.

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Has Anyone ever turned down to be on the Governing Body?

by Iamallcool in

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just wondering.

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It is said that A.H. MacMillan was in line to be the Society's president after Judge Rutherford's passing, but he declined - what is the proper term - the nomination? There was no G.B. per se in those days, even though the Organization today hints that there was, but the Presidency was the most powerful position in the Organization.

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2019 Elders Manual and a Whole Lot More!

by Atlantis in

single zipped folderhttps://we.tl/t-uiqj87wimd.

2019-02-02-musical preludeshttps://we.tl/t-zyfpnodizd.

s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdfhttps://we.tl/t-i9qamx3s0q.

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On another thread Sir82 said,

Don't worry, before sunset there will be about a thousand sites with copies available for download.

Amazing. Available for all to download on the very day of it's release!

I'm thinking that to get this scanned, every page, and posted, someone had to have had it in their possession long enough to do the work ahead of time. It's as if the leakers are one step ahead of the Organization!

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Child Sexual Abuse: The Organization Oozes Self-Congratulations over Non-JWs Tireless Work

by steve2 in

wow - the may watchtower study edition is out.

who could have anticipated entire watchtower study articles devoted to child sexual abuse?

an appreciative shout out to all the people who worked tirelessly over so very many, many years to call the organization to account over its defiantly self-serving policies and practices on responding top allegations of child sexual abuse.

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I presume these are the pictures of a 'mature sister' sitting in...

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Jehovah's Witnesses Called At My Door

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

last saturday morning, i answered a knock at my door to see a man standing next to a young boy who handed me a pamphlet posing the question, "how do you view the bible?

would you say it is (1) a book of human wisdom?

(2) a book of myths and legends?

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Great information, but unlikely scenario. (Wasanelder Once)
I had the same feeling. It sure seemed smooth, very smooth...
1. the OP remembering exactly where to turn in the KIngdom Interlinear Translation (p 23).
2. remembering the name of the Catholic monk who devised the pronunciation of 'Jehovah' and the year he did it (Raymundus Martinti in 1270)
3. knowing instantly which scriptures to turn to (Eph 4:4, Luke 1:19, Rev 7:15)
4. having the presence of mind to work Bob Dylan and The Beatles into an illustration.

Most of us would have to have pre-studied carefully or used detailed notes to present this. Oh well, maybe the OP has a photographic memory that is called into action when there is an unexpected knock on the door.

It actually reminded me of some of the experiences presented by Watchtower in the publications, which are often just to much to take literally, even though they are much less detailed than this.

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My Letter to President Trump Requesting That IRS Revoke Watchtower's Tax-exempt status

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

january 23, 2019. the honorable donald j. trump,.

president of the united states;.

the white house.

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That is a beautifully written letter.

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THIS IS IT Tony Morris Identifies King of Norht

by scotoma in

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this is the announcement we have heard “about” but now it has been released to the whole world.

its in the 2nd of a three part serries about the jw annual meeting (oct 2018).

to minute 52. .

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Thank you OrphanCrow. Giving it try now!

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THIS IS IT Tony Morris Identifies King of Norht

by scotoma in

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friends

this is the announcement we have heard “about” but now it has been released to the whole world.

its in the 2nd of a three part serries about the jw annual meeting (oct 2018).

to minute 52. .

ScenicViewer

From the OP...

Its in the 2nd of a three part serries about the JW Annual Meeting (Oct 2018). Go to minute 52.

I'm a bit lost at finding the video. I see just one video of the 2018 Annual Meeting; Anthony Morris isn't in it at the 52' mark. Can someone post a direct link or provide more information on how to find it?

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Secret Dating

by pinkpizza in

so i moved out of my small town into the big city and staying with an older sister i’ve been having some fun in the big city wink wink.

but i have a good standing with the congregation in the city they are nice but don’t really pay a lot of attention to me.

i have been dating a “worldly guy” who is amazing love him but the older sister said he wasn’t allowed in the house.

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Often, those of us who were raised JW...assume no one but JW"s have moral standards. Some even assume that once you're not a JW, you automatically have to run out and start living some debauched lifestyle and they get themselves into some serious trouble...

Nicely said and absolutely true.

JWs are supposed to think that if you leave the Organization your life will descend into drug abuse, alcoholism, or some perverted life style. Generated by Watchtower it's a complete myth, by design, because it's a one of the hooks that keeps you following a man-made religion.