When I came into the organization, in the early 1970s, I seem to remember that even penny ante poker was off limits. You had to play with tokens. Now recreational gambling is ok.
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(Petty) Gambling No Longer A Judicial Offense?
by Solzhenitsyn ini searched "gambling" on this forum and only found old threads.
so thought i'd share.
perhaps it has already been commented on and i am just repeating.. see you all in vegas baby!
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Dubtown episode - melch’s week from hell
by Dubtown innew dubtown episode.
poor melch cant take part in anything in high school.
https://youtu.be/egcegptsn00.
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Regarding the fact that some of the blood fractions that JWs are allowed to take amount to a larger percentage of blood than other components that are prohibited, young Melchizedek asks....
Is it true that size matters to the Governing Body, or is it what we do with it that matters? (at the 9:16 to 10:19 mark)
Oh dear. The subtle humor that Kevin McFree puts into his videos is too good!
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Is The Watchtower Society Just Copying The Mormon's Model?
by pale.emperor inwhen i was a faithful jw i was pretty much obsessed with the mormon religion.
to me it was like lord of the rings.
i knew the characters, the history, the events, the joseph smith stories, the religion's history etc etc etc and i long suspected even then that the watchtower society has been copying certain things from the lds church.. for example, the first thing i noticed was when the book study was dropped and family worship was started.
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Has anyone mentioned the GoBags? I believe the Mormons have had those for decades too.
It makes sense that Watchtower would copy the Mormons. Mormons are only slightly older as a religion than the Watchtower, but there are about twice as many Mormons in the world as Jehovah's Witnesses - 17 or 18 million (according to the two Missionaries who recently came to my house) vs about 8.5 million JWs.
I too believe that the Governing Body is trying to copy the Mormon's success.
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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)
by yalbmert99 inhi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).
that means it can proceed further.
it is a first victory.
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While I don't like many things in the JWs, such as how they direct people's life outside the religion, shunning, blood, I do believe that the religion is the correct one according to the Bible.
There is no way all of that could be true.
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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)
by yalbmert99 inhi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).
that means it can proceed further.
it is a first victory.
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" Do you really think that such a person will molest a child in front a second witness?"
Do you think that such a person will molest an adult in front of a second witness?
Don't forget, you had asked the question "Why was there only one witness to abuse? The answer is obvious.
The point of your response here isn't very clear, but you do raise an important issue regarding a Watchtower double standard. According to Duet 2:27 two witnesses are not required in the case of sexual crimes.
27 for he found her in the field, the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. (American Standard Version)
If there was no one to save an adult victim of rape, who cried out for help, then there was obviously no one there to be a second witness. Despite that the rapist was to be put to death (v 25, 26). It is clear that other kinds of evidence were brought in for consideration, but Watchtower only accepts the testimony of two witnesses to catch a child molester.
To detect those other kinds of evidence you need professionals such as the police, but in almost all cases Watchtower refuses to contact any authority.
Watchtower's double standard is that the Organization claims it's hands are tied by the Bible and the two witness rule, while completely ignoring another part of the Bible.
I realize that this whole child abuse issues exists because it is easy to use against the Watchtower.
Ah, the persecution card again. Forget about the terribly abused child victims but weep for poor Wathtower for hiding the entire sordid issue, as if the whole world is out to get them.
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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)
by yalbmert99 inhi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).
that means it can proceed further.
it is a first victory.
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Why was there only one witness to the abuse?
Because child molesters are typically very cautious, sometimes even grooming their victims over a long period of time. Do you really think that such a person will molest a child in front a second witness? (The child victim is one witness, but his/her word isn't good enough for JWs.) -
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OK, I know this forum isn't exactly friends with JWSurvey, BUT...
by Vidiot in...this, imo, is just too good to pass up:.
https://jwsurvey.org/news/watch-tower-sues-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-for-contempt-of-court-demands-daily-fine.
this bit especially made me laugh:.
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I really enjoy the Kevin McFree videos, but I had no idea they were such a thorn in Watchtower's side.
GO KEVIN!
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Does anyone know how many kh's are/Have been sold?
by purrpurr inare we at least able to estimate?
and where are the funds from these sales going?
the official line is of course that it's to build halls in africa etcbut i don't believe it .
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This is what the speaker said regarding the properties that were to be sold...
The real estate sales around the world have been accelerated to the extent possible. We have close to 3,000 properties scattered around the globe that need to be sold, many of them smaller properties of limited value, but in total they represent a substantial amount of future income from the sale of those properties. That’s especially true of the remaining properties here in Brooklyn … These sales will contribute to helping us to transition from our current position to the revised operating budget that the Governing Body is working towards.
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Ministers are called for consultation regarding Jehovah’s Witness revelations
by Not_Culty inhttps://avoidjw.org/en/news/ministers-are-called-for-consultation-regarding-jehovahs-witness-revelations/.
the jehovah’s witnesses branch office in holbæk does not want to be interviewed, but states that in some cases they go to the authorities.. the recognized religious community of jehovah’s witnesses has an internal set of rules where religious leaders can judge on everything from smoking to killing.. this is according to a secret manual for the elders – religious leaders of jehovah’s witnesses – that tv 2 has in its possession.. precisely that fact is a testament that this is a parallel legal community, one of denmark’s leading experts in religious law believes.. and now the social democrats are calling the responsible ministers for consultation:.
– for us, it is subordinate to what god you believe in.
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From the linked article...
Exclusion – or disfellowshipping, as Jehovah’s Witnesses themselves refer to it – must be seen as an expression of love, according to the organization’s own magazine “Watchtower”:
– Family members can show their love for the congregation and for the wrongdoer by respecting the disfellowshipping arrangement, it says.
This is precisely what Lisbet Christoffersen finds problematic because she believes it is at odds with the individual’s religious freedom.
– Not only for the religious community, but also for the family and all members, one vanishes into thin air. You become non-existent. It is not recognizing the individual’s religious freedom, she says.
(Bold added)
While the Watchtower organization insists on religious freedom for itself, it denies the same religious freedom to it's own followers. One can be disfellowshipped and shunned for simply disagreeing with a concept or an interpretation. Of course JWs will say that df'ing is the "loving" thing to do, per their Organizations controlling guidance.
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It is said that A.H. MacMillan was in line to be the Society's president after Judge Rutherford's passing, but he declined - what is the proper term - the nomination? There was no G.B. per se in those days, even though the Organization today hints that there was, but the Presidency was the most powerful position in the Organization.