Posts by ScenicViewer

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NEW ARTICLE ABOUT CHILD SEX ABUSES

by Eliseo in

an astonishing article has been published yesterday by the italian newspaper l’indro .

https://www.lindro.it/testimoni-di-geova-il-paradiso-in-terra-per-pedofili/.

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Thank you Eliseo for the article, and Earnest for the translation.

This is an excellent article that touches all the bases, worldwide, on the Jehovah's Witness problems with child molesting. Lots of information is covered.

(Sorry about the bad formatting below. I can't seem to get it right.)

- The pedophile database collected from 1997 forward

- Law suits in the United States

- The $35 million judgement in Montana

- New U.S. laws extending the statute of limitations for victims

- New law in New York state allowing past victims of abuse a year to file suit

- Governing Body members individually being sued
- Australian Royal Commission Investigation

- Watchtower's failure to participate in schemes to compensate victims

- Directive from Watchtower to elders to destroy records

- Investigation (a Royal Commission Investigation??) in the U.K.

- A new Royal Commission investigation in New Zealand

- The $60 million class action suit in Canada

- Watchtower's internal methods of handling pedophile cases

- Watchtower's failure to report pedophiles to police

- The two-witness rule followed to establish whether abuse really happened

- Watchtower's methods of intimidating victims into silence

- Police raids on Watchtower's Dutch headquarters

- A similar investigation and raid in Belgium

- More

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one picture too far ( fetched)

by waton in

july 2019 wt mag.

study article 27, to sept 8 (last weak) sic intended.

page 5. .

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On the way to a meeting, a family practices singing Kingdom songs in the car

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highlights from Circuit Overseer Guidelines

by neat blue dog in

i just finished looking through the circuit overseer manual, so here are some highlights.

first up, regarding circuit assemblies:.

if a brother is so extremely overweight that others would be distracted if he had a part on the program, good judgment would need to be used in deciding whether to give him an assignment.

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If there is any doubt about an experience, it should not be used.

Like anything having to do with Andre.

Of course COs didn't make him up, the Organization did.

On occasion, circuit overseers have related experiences that were inaccurate or fictitious.

I wonder where COs learned to do that. The leaders of this religion should take their own advice.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/215312/okay-believe-andre-thing-now

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250140/hes-back-andre-im-afraid-hes-mourning

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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

jw
friends

the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.

watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!

".

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That book seems to be available on Ebay or Amazon (used, good condition) in the price range of $12 to $13 with free shipping. I just ordered one myself.

Wonderment, thanks for the information!

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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

jw
friends

the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.

watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!

".

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slimboyfat, Where can I send you the photo-copies of Robert Countess' book on the divine name?

Wonderment, do you mind giving the name of that book?

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Hitting the fan: CD epidemic at my Hall

by neat blue dog in

yesterday my congregation met for field service and the elder taking the lead did something not so smart: he brought up the child abuse situation and the recent news articles hitting local news across the country.

he said 'you can see that the persecution is really coming' and that we should be ready if someone complains about it at the door.

(funny how it's persecution when it's us and righteous judgment when it happens to the other churches.

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My brother in law, who was an elder when the Dateline episode on JW child abuse came out, said the WT instructed them to tell the congregation not to watch it.

I remember that. At the time someone in my congregation had recorded the episode on a VHS tape. The tape was being passed around and I wanted to watch it. However the talk was given which shut down viewing the tape.

I didn't know anything about the child molestation issues until many years later when I found the Dateline broadcast, along with others from around the world, on Youtube.

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Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??

by Festus in

is this a bad joke or "fake news"?.

nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".

eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.

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ScenicViewer- the link doesn’t come up...

So sorry about that. Several minutes ago it worked for me, but now it doesn't. I wonder what changed.

One more attempt at the same link:

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-jehovahs-witnes-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-20190812-benjcqrlozeyjl3gi3nlidc37u-story.html

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Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??

by Festus in

is this a bad joke or "fake news"?.

nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".

eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.

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NEW YORK DAILY NEWS article:

Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders to be sued for sexual abuse under new Child Victims Act

(Photo caption: Child sexual abuse accusers John Michael Ewing (r.) and Heather Steele announced a lawsuit Monday in Manhattan against the governing body of the Jehovah's Witnesses.) (Barry Williams/for New York Daily News)

"A man and woman who accused Jehovah’s Witnesses elders of child sexual abuse will launch lawsuits against the organization’s governing body under a landmark state law that goes into effect this week, the former church members said Monday.

"John Michael Ewing and Heather Steele, in separate lawsuits that will be filed Wednesday in Brooklyn Supreme Court, said they endured years of rape and molestation at the hands of the group’s elders."

Continue reading here...

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Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??

by Festus in

is this a bad joke or "fake news"?.

nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".

eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.

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So your post exposes nothing that hasn't been predicted in scripture

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic in your post or not.

If you are serious, what you posted from Jude 1 perhaps fits the GB very well, but what is new is that GB members are being sued for the first time, assuming this law suit is real and makes it to trial.

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Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??

by Festus in

is this a bad joke or "fake news"?.

nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".

eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.

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Attorney Irwin Zalkin had previously said that Governing Body members would be sued in court. Perhaps this is what he was referring to.

The following is from the link posted by Xanthippe...

On Friday, attorney Irwin Zalkin held a news conference in Manhattan announcing that two alleged victims, Heather Steele and Michael Ewing, will file lawsuits in state Supreme Court in Brooklyn on Wednesday. The lawsuits will name as defendants eight members of the Governing Body of the Jehovah’s Witnesses (JWs).

Now located in Tuxedo Park, N.Y., the JWs World Headquarters occupied a building with a large Watchtower sign in Brooklyn.

“Litigation by the Zalkin Law Firm has exposed a database maintained by the JW containing information about known child molesters within the organization that dates back decades,” according to a news release from the law firm. “The JWs have defied numerous court orders compelling them to produce this database in several of the lawsuits.”