What's up redeemer? I'm kinda new here too and you are a genius for that star wars analogy. Anakin didn't turn to the dark side until he was on the council and not allowed to be a master. Also me and countless others can probably relate to how Anakin had to hide his non jedi wife from the council at the risk of being kicked out of the jedi order(disfellowshipped) lol how many people had non witness friends and girlfriends that they try to hide from the congregation? lol I'm guessing many. I'm not even baptized, been studying for awhile but only recently started having doubts, cut off all my non witness friends and most of my fam are witness. For a long time the woman i'm seeing now used to always recommend going out and doing things that were way too close to the hall and territory and I always made an excuse as to why we should go do this for our date all the way on the other side of town lol. Like me you will probably get addicted to JWN lol I lurk everyday.
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Hello all
by Theredeemer inafter many years of visiting this site off and on since its inception i would finally like to throw in my two cents and opinions into the mix.. first of all, i am a born in, baptized at the tender age of 9. although i totally disagree with allowing someone at that age to get baptized, i will say that i was very imformed and i knew my dogma!
at the same time, though, i was aware of many inconsistancies with many of the beliefs and practices of the jw faith.
i was adopted by my grandparents since i was 2 months and they had been jws since 1950s.
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I need advice, I know many of you have been in this same situation.
by shakyground ini've been seeing this woman who is very special to me for quite some time now.
there is only one problem, she goes to church every sunday and tuesday.
she keeps asking me to come and complaining that i don't even give it a chance.
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Thanks guys for all the advice. Isaac you hit the nail on the head. I have slowed down my meeting attendance as of late and I'm definately getting raised eyebrows. The thing is, since I've been seeing her she has always tried to get me to come to church. She says things like everyone wonders where my mysterious boyfriend is, so and so is dying to meet you. I went to that picnic trying to appease and meet her church members, many of whom are her cousins and uncles and aunts. I already met all of them and socialized so why am I still getting bothered about coming to her church?? I think she just wants me to conform, she says I am husband material all the time, but I am sick and tired of always doing what others want me to do!!!!!!!!! No I don't believe in hell and no I don't believe your uncle is a prophet and you aunt a prophetess!!!! If I never set foot in a hall again I probably never will believe these things. I'm not really feeling organized religion right now. Obviously if I haven't come yet I feel uncomfortable and really don't want to come so why can't you respect that? I don't care if your pastor/uncle keeps bugging you about me. People that wasn't raised witness or around witnesses never understand....
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I need advice, I know many of you have been in this same situation.
by shakyground ini've been seeing this woman who is very special to me for quite some time now.
there is only one problem, she goes to church every sunday and tuesday.
she keeps asking me to come and complaining that i don't even give it a chance.
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I grew up on Soul food Entirely P so that's not much of a temptation lol.
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I need advice, I know many of you have been in this same situation.
by shakyground ini've been seeing this woman who is very special to me for quite some time now.
there is only one problem, she goes to church every sunday and tuesday.
she keeps asking me to come and complaining that i don't even give it a chance.
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I've been seeing this woman who is very special to me for quite some time now. There is only one problem, she goes to church every sunday and tuesday. She keeps asking me to come and complaining that I don't even give it a chance. She knows how I was raised and it seems like people who were not raised witness or raised around witnesses will never understand, no matter how thouroughly you explain it to them. I'm still kinda hesitant about going to a church. She goes to a black pentocostal church, lots of music and testifying or whatever lol. She just doesn't understand how deeply ingrained contempt for any other religion especially other christian religions are in witnesses over the years. I just feel like slowing down on meetings and then going to church is not really what I want. Kinda like getting out of a relationship and jumping right into another one. It took alot of balls for me to go to her church picnic and I was dreading that. The whole way up to the park I was thinking about how many witnesses go here to play basketball lol. Her pastor is her uncle and he kept bugging me about coming to the church. I told him I'll make it soon just to shut him up. Now they keep asking when i'm coming. I told her that I'm thinking about not going to meetings at all anymore and that I don't know about jumping into something else and quickly changed the subject. Don't know what to do man....
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What imaginary places would you visit if you could?
by rebel8 inrisa [star trek].
several of the places in the old james bond movies.
willie wonka factory.
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The Jedi Temple
Corelia
Naboo
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It's funny how situations like this created so much drama.
by shakyground ini'm sitting here at work by myself reminiscing about an old situation that created unneccesary tension.
a few years ago as my mother was in the hospital just diagnosed with ovarian cancer,most family were already at the hospital but my sister who lived in new york at the time had not arrived yet.
my mother who was newly reinstated and knew that my sister and her ex husband now boyfriend wanted to stay the week in her house.
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That's funny NewChapter because I know a sister who whould not attend the baby shower of a study because she was not married. She said even tho she got pregnant before she knew about Jehovah's laws, it would still be like honoring fornacation....
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It's funny how situations like this created so much drama.
by shakyground ini'm sitting here at work by myself reminiscing about an old situation that created unneccesary tension.
a few years ago as my mother was in the hospital just diagnosed with ovarian cancer,most family were already at the hospital but my sister who lived in new york at the time had not arrived yet.
my mother who was newly reinstated and knew that my sister and her ex husband now boyfriend wanted to stay the week in her house.
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I'm sitting here at work by myself reminiscing about an old situation that created unneccesary tension. A few years ago as my mother was in the hospital just diagnosed with ovarian cancer,most family were already at the hospital but my sister who lived in New York at the time had not arrived yet. My mother who was newly reinstated and knew that my sister and her ex husband now boyfriend wanted to stay the week in her house. My mother begged and pleaded with us to convince my sis and her ex to stay in a hotel. I thought that that was kinda stupid, why have them spend almost 400 bucks for a hotel for the week? I reasoned that if she promises you that she would respect your house and wishes and not fornicate while they're there, and do it anyway that is on them not on you.
My mother had talked to an elder and he told her that since they were not married and my mother wasn't there to make sure that no fornication was taking place in her house while she was away, that it would not be right for them to stay there. My mother told me to make sure they stayed in a hotel. I said I would but I just told my sis(who never was a witness or ever studied) how mom felt and told her to promise mom that no sex would be going down this week at the house. She did promise to my mom, but my mom still very much didn't want them staying there. My sis said they would even sleep in seperate rooms but still was not enough.
My sis was 39 at the time and her ex husband 43. They told my mom that they are not horny teenagers that couldn't control themselves for a week. That still was not enough. I just told my mom they would stay at a hotel to be done with it. Two days later my aunt who is a witness stopped by my moms house to get a few things. I arrived at the hospital later that day and my mom was furious with me for letting them stay, gee I wonder who told her they were there? lol. It ended up causing so much drama that they left back for N.Y. days earlier than they were supposed to. I remember telling a witness at work about the whole situation, and telling him that my sis said that her ex husband thinks witnesses are crazy now, and that now he wants nothing to do with witnesses and how my mom wanted to get him to study but now that probably would never happen. I wanted him to tell me yea, that was alot of uneccesary drama, but he just looked at me and said "Well with something as deadly as fornication you have to take all precautions no matter how drastic. Isn't Josh(my sis ex husband) a Catholic? You wanna talk about crazy, crazy is how Catholics marry homosexuals, and worshipping the imperfect pope. I was nodding but inside I was shaking my head.
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The whole NGO thing.
by shakyground ini was just thinking today at work about the whole ngo thing and got pretty deep in thought about it.
i remember reading about it and i remember reading on a pro jw site i think it was jehovah uk or something like that.
on the pro jw site they said that when the society signed and joined as an ngo there were no requirements to pledge that you will uphold the ideals of the un etc etc.
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Yup Knowsnothing. That is the pro JW site I was reading. I knew it had something uk in it.
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The whole NGO thing.
by shakyground ini was just thinking today at work about the whole ngo thing and got pretty deep in thought about it.
i remember reading about it and i remember reading on a pro jw site i think it was jehovah uk or something like that.
on the pro jw site they said that when the society signed and joined as an ngo there were no requirements to pledge that you will uphold the ideals of the un etc etc.
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I was just thinking today at work about the whole NGO thing and got pretty deep in thought about it. I remember reading about it and I remember reading on a pro JW site I think it was Jehovah uk or something like that. On the pro JW site they said that when the society signed and joined as an NGO there were no requirements to pledge that you will uphold the ideals of the UN etc etc. Ok I get that, they may not have made allegiances to the UN in any way whatsoever and the UN probably did change the NGO policy at a later date making new members agree to uphold the ideals of the UN. But what bothered me is that why would they want ANYTHING to do with the UN that they excessively demonized on so many occasions? I remember how the UN was made to be such a filthy counterfeit to Gods Kingdom. I remember how in the Revelation study book it made the UN something disgusting and something to be treated with utter contempt. Why would you have anything to do with something that you demonized so? No matter if it was just for the library or whatever. Even if you made no allegiances whatsoever to them. I wouldn't have anything to do with something I thought as an abomonation and disgusting on any level not just make sure I don't alliance myself to it's ideals not even touching it with a 10 foot pole.
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Can anyone relate? Or is it just me?
by shakyground intoday at the gas station i'm at the register getting my snacks and i happen to glance out the window and see my super j-dub workmate.
the kind of guy that just can't seem to have a conversation without bringing up spirtual things.
i don't see him that much because he works another shift, but everytime i do see this guy he asks about how my studies are going, or when am i getting baptized, what's holding me back, or ask me a rhetorical bible question, kinda like quizzing me.
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Today at the gas station I'm at the register getting my snacks and I happen to glance out the window and see my super j-dub workmate. The kind of guy that just can't seem to have a conversation without bringing up spirtual things. I don't see him that much because he works another shift, but everytime I do see this guy he asks about how my studies are going, or when am I getting baptized, what's holding me back, or ask me a rhetorical bible question, kinda like quizzing me. My heart started to beat fast and I swipped my card so fast it almost melted inside the machine lol. As I ran to my car hoping he didn't see me I asked myself, why am I running out this store like a maniac? I am 30 years old, why should I have to feel like I have to dodge another grown man? I felt kinda silly dashing out of the gas station like that lol.