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  Why did Lazarus Pay for his sins twice?

  by criticalwitness in

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  according to j dub doc the wages sins pays is death meaning to them death covers your debt of sin when lazarus died did he not pay his debt?

  so when jesus resctd him why did he die again?

  when jesus brought him back did he creat or recreat an imperfect being on the sinful road to destruction?

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  Sulla

  Interesting to see that OldGenerationDude has thoroughly answered this question twice now, but nobody seems to notice.
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  Kendrick in good standing in Oakley Congregation ... wow !

  by RubaDub in

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  2. child-abuse

  can anyone imagine the what the elders in his current congregation must be going through ?!.

  in their ideal world, they would have df'd him once they knew there would be a trial so they could play the card "he's not one of jw's.

  " but since it occurred in a different congregation and he was already punished, there is little they can currently do.. wow, imagine the buzz in the kh when the info started leaking out.

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  Well, let me ask a serious question about this. The JWs establish a judicial committee to work through these sorts of things. Once they've worked through it and decided the punnishment (or not), then wouldn't he be a JW in good standing? I admit I'm not sure how this specific and particular thing is an issue. Please note, there is plenty else here to complain about; I'm asking about just this part.
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  Jesus ,the son of GOD,on earth as a man,never wrote down his words of wisdom,message of salvation,only talked to a minority group,majority of what he preached was never recorded by observers,?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  doesn`t this sound a little bit odd to you ?

  according to christendom/jehovah`s witnesses in particular , the greatest man who ever lived,had the means at his disposal,to write down everything he had to say for the benefit of all mankind ,jew and gentile,and he never availed himself of this priveledge .rather most of what he had to say, according to the bible, was lost,no one recorded all he spoke ..he was quite content to leave it up to a few, who would put his words to pen,many of which were not eyewitness accounts to his deeds.,but received the information secon-hand.

  if the almighty god jehovah and his son jesus christ were in anyway serious, wouldn`t they have made this" so important" message available to all mankind ?

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  I see this complaint a lot, mP, and it is always offered up as if the discovery of three synoptic gospels is some sort of amazing discovery. When they were selected, everybody knew they were told from a very similar point of view, but with a slightly different emphasis for the different audience intended. The simple fact is that the synoptics are all included in the canon simply because the Church found they were all important in order to convey the message more completely. Not clear why that is supposed to be some sort of joke.
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  Jesus ,the son of GOD,on earth as a man,never wrote down his words of wisdom,message of salvation,only talked to a minority group,majority of what he preached was never recorded by observers,?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  doesn`t this sound a little bit odd to you ?

  according to christendom/jehovah`s witnesses in particular , the greatest man who ever lived,had the means at his disposal,to write down everything he had to say for the benefit of all mankind ,jew and gentile,and he never availed himself of this priveledge .rather most of what he had to say, according to the bible, was lost,no one recorded all he spoke ..he was quite content to leave it up to a few, who would put his words to pen,many of which were not eyewitness accounts to his deeds.,but received the information secon-hand.

  if the almighty god jehovah and his son jesus christ were in anyway serious, wouldn`t they have made this" so important" message available to all mankind ?

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  Sulla

  Well, we could say:

  Peter,

  Linus,

  Cletus,

  Clement,

  is a pretty good start.
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  Bill Bowen Just Posted This on Facebook Moments Ago

  by jamiebowers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jane doe vs the watch tower in the oakland, ca case was awarded $20 million in punitive damages..

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  Sulla

  27% of $20M, though. Around $7M total, damages plus punitive.
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  Jesus ,the son of GOD,on earth as a man,never wrote down his words of wisdom,message of salvation,only talked to a minority group,majority of what he preached was never recorded by observers,?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  doesn`t this sound a little bit odd to you ?

  according to christendom/jehovah`s witnesses in particular , the greatest man who ever lived,had the means at his disposal,to write down everything he had to say for the benefit of all mankind ,jew and gentile,and he never availed himself of this priveledge .rather most of what he had to say, according to the bible, was lost,no one recorded all he spoke ..he was quite content to leave it up to a few, who would put his words to pen,many of which were not eyewitness accounts to his deeds.,but received the information secon-hand.

  if the almighty god jehovah and his son jesus christ were in anyway serious, wouldn`t they have made this" so important" message available to all mankind ?

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  Interesting observation, Diest. If only there was someting with a direct connection to the person of Jesus himself that survived since then...
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  Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this recent?

  http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.

  i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .

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  Sulla

  Shouldn't be a big deal in the local congregation. Aren't expense reports generally approved by simple voice vote at the Service meeting?
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  Prelude to a disfellowshipping: An open letter.

  by rory-ks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an open letter to the body of elders, .

  sudbury (suffolk) congregation of jehovah's witnesses.. .

  on wednesday, april 4, 2012, the decision will be carried out to announce to the congregation that, rory sullivan is no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. .

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  Sulla

  Your mistake, apostatethunder, is supposing that this is the effect of a bad organization on good people. It's a bad organization filled with bad people. Your view is the central, mistaken conceit of most on this site, unfortunately.
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  Jesus ,the son of GOD,on earth as a man,never wrote down his words of wisdom,message of salvation,only talked to a minority group,majority of what he preached was never recorded by observers,?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  doesn`t this sound a little bit odd to you ?

  according to christendom/jehovah`s witnesses in particular , the greatest man who ever lived,had the means at his disposal,to write down everything he had to say for the benefit of all mankind ,jew and gentile,and he never availed himself of this priveledge .rather most of what he had to say, according to the bible, was lost,no one recorded all he spoke ..he was quite content to leave it up to a few, who would put his words to pen,many of which were not eyewitness accounts to his deeds.,but received the information secon-hand.

  if the almighty god jehovah and his son jesus christ were in anyway serious, wouldn`t they have made this" so important" message available to all mankind ?

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  Sulla

  Maybe it is worth repeating, designs. You may be interested to learn that the Muslims consider bth the Jews and Christians to have misunderstood scripture as well. If you thoroughly understand Islam, you will grasp what is wrong with Judiasm as well as what is wrong with Christianity. A two-fer, if you will. But, if you ask 1,000 Jews if they've bothered to research this from the Islamic perpective, you get a similar result.
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  Jesus ,the son of GOD,on earth as a man,never wrote down his words of wisdom,message of salvation,only talked to a minority group,majority of what he preached was never recorded by observers,?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  doesn`t this sound a little bit odd to you ?

  according to christendom/jehovah`s witnesses in particular , the greatest man who ever lived,had the means at his disposal,to write down everything he had to say for the benefit of all mankind ,jew and gentile,and he never availed himself of this priveledge .rather most of what he had to say, according to the bible, was lost,no one recorded all he spoke ..he was quite content to leave it up to a few, who would put his words to pen,many of which were not eyewitness accounts to his deeds.,but received the information secon-hand.

  if the almighty god jehovah and his son jesus christ were in anyway serious, wouldn`t they have made this" so important" message available to all mankind ?

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  Sulla

  -- from the Jewish perspective. But this isn't news to us, is it designs? The Jewish complaints with Christianity are pretty well documented going all the way back to the Dialogue With Trypho, are they not?