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  Are the Jews meek?

  by slimboyfat in

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  i thought these were pretty surprising comments in the consolation magazine in 1946, just a few months after the full horrors of the holocaust emerged, under the heading "are the jews meek?":.

  "there is no evidence in the scriptures that the jews as a people are meek.

  on the contrary, jehovah's witnesses only find it stated in the bible that the jews are "stiff-necked and hard-hearted", but when they call at their homes with the message of god's kingdom they witness the same characteristics.

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  Sulla

  Well, as we know, the National Socialist plan of mass murder was really aimed at the anointed JWs. The Jews just got in the way.
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  Evidence For Impending Change Re: "Loose Conduct" to "Brazen Conduct"

  by DarioKehl in

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  on another thread discussing possible changes to the nwt, the post refered to a 2nd-hand report of a co leaking possible changes to 5 verses where "loose conduct" would be replaced by "brazen conduct.

  " although it is merely speculative at this point, i would like to remind those of you who did attend the 2012 dc this summer about some important evidence that supports this theory.

  if the program is still available on jw.org, feel free to see this for yourselves.

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  Sulla

  Does anyody think the Wt thinks they should have more disfellowshippings? That they are short on enforcement mechanisms such that they need to procure a wider set of potential offenses?

  Not buyin' it. They already DF whomever they want and it doesn't seem necessary to increase that rate.
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  "Jehovah, I want you to be my Master in every aspect of my life"

  by stillin9 in

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  2. experiences

  ....i am your servant.

  i want you to determine how i should spend my time, what my priorities should be, and how i should use my resources and talents.".

  this was in this week's watchtower, first paragraph.

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  Sulla

  tootired2care, I am referring to the Catholics and Orthodox. We don't put ourselves under the literalistic and blinkered reading of scripture. Look here: what you've got with the scriptures you quote is an unstated assumption: that the will of God involves letting someone else tell you what your vocation ought to be. It is a very old Christian insight that the will of God for each of us is to be the man we were meant to be -- this involves spiritual and personal development, not some sort of insistance that we not educate ourselves or that we not work at that thing we are best at.

  The idea that scripture teaches us to eschew our talents -- to not be the artists, athletes, craftsmen, doctors, etc., we were built to be -- is not a Christian way of thinking. I think your mistake is to suppose that the JW thinking we have all been exposed to is at all related to Christianity. The JWs are liars, as you know. But you have to remember that they are liars all the way down. They haven't told you the truth about anything at all, not even about what Christianity is and is not.
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  Why are many OT heroes rich and powerful and rarely humble and poor ?

  by mP in

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  * abraham had hundreds of slaves and was even important enough for pharoah to grant him an audience.. * david, short stint at sheep herding then king!.

  * moses was a prince.

  * job had lots of kids, servants(slaves???

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  Sulla

  'Cause it's the Old Testament.
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  "The Lord is not my shepherd for I am not a sheep" ..makes sense to me..does it to you?.

  by chrisjoel in

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  Sulla

  Oh, for sure, man! We love that sort of shit here. Slurp it up with a spoon. Very transgressive and edgy, sorta like a crucifix in a jar of piss. You live dangerously, dude! Woo hoo! Speakin' truth to power!

  Etc., & etc.

  Asshole.
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  Are some better off not knowing the truth of the truth?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  i hate my situation.

  a very close relative is remarried to a man who before becoming a jw was a shady character.

  he has said if he wasn't a jw, he'd have guns and stuff, always worried about things.

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  Sulla

  Is a person better off knowing truth or believing a lie? Depends on what you think the proper end for a human being is, I suppose.

  If you are a materialist, then comfortable lies make the most sense. If you are a revanchist like King Solomon then their own well-being isn't a factor in the question because you don't give a shit about that. If you think the proper end of a human being is truth, then you've answered the question. Individuals may decide against knowing, but that becomes a moral failing -- mitigated by all sorts of factors.

  So, no. no one is better off not knowing the truth about the JWs.
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  spirituality and religion - what are the differences?

  by soft+gentle in

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  2. bible

  trying to understand the differences.

  started this topic on the xjwsforchrist forum as well and would like to ask jwn posters the same question.

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  Sulla

  Cofty, content-less statements are de rigueur these days. What, you're opposed to your natural essense flowering all over the place, or something?
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  spirituality and religion - what are the differences?

  by soft+gentle in

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  trying to understand the differences.

  started this topic on the xjwsforchrist forum as well and would like to ask jwn posters the same question.

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  Sulla

  Looks like Fernando agreeswith what I said. The whole, "spirituality: good, religion: bad," thing is a tired trope of small minds, of course. But there it is.
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  By What Authority?

  by Orthodox1 in

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  the jws, catholics, mormons, and a handful of others say they are the "true church" or what jesus originally intended.

  i know jws call themselves the "true christians".

  by what authority - outside of the bible, since 41,000 denominations use the bible to back up their individual beliefs - can jws make this claim?

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  Sulla

  Well, this outta be interesting...
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  "Jehovah, I want you to be my Master in every aspect of my life"

  by stillin9 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ....i am your servant.

  i want you to determine how i should spend my time, what my priorities should be, and how i should use my resources and talents.".

  this was in this week's watchtower, first paragraph.

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  Sulla

  You are just a very strange fellow, aren't you? Being that full of rage for this long can't be very healthy, dude. Have you considered a hobby? Model rockets or something? Rock collecting? Stamps?