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  Muslim Stores in Dearborn enforce new dress code!

  by Diest in

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  fury at muslim biz dress codes.

  by gary buiso and kate briquelet.

  last updated:1:10 pm, july 22, 2012. posted:12:57 am, july 22, 2012. j.c. ricepain in the neckline:hana dagostin (left) and ivana saftic balk at a dress code posted for a pharmacy on lee avenue in dearborn, michigan.

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  This story was actually about Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn. I was just curious what people would think if I tweaked the story.

  http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/it_vey_out_of_line_tyoxysXr7gEso2O5HN5zeM
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  Muslim Stores in Dearborn enforce new dress code!

  by Diest in

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  fury at muslim biz dress codes.

  by gary buiso and kate briquelet.

  last updated:1:10 pm, july 22, 2012. posted:12:57 am, july 22, 2012. j.c. ricepain in the neckline:hana dagostin (left) and ivana saftic balk at a dress code posted for a pharmacy on lee avenue in dearborn, michigan.

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  Fury at Muslim biz dress codes

  By GARY BUISO and KATE BRIQUELET

  Last Updated: 1:10 PM, July 22, 2012

  Posted: 12:57 AM, July 22, 2012

  J.C. Rice PAIN IN THE NECKLINE: Hana Dagostin (left) and Ivana Saftic balk at a dress code posted for a pharmacy on Lee Avenue in Dearborn, Michigan. Tensions have risen as the hard-line Muslim community has tried to impose religious law on the local hipsters.

  Dearborn has lost its right to bare arms.

  Muslim business owners are lashing out at customers at dozens of stores in downtown, trying to ban sleeveless tops and plunging necklines from their aisles. It’s only the latest example of the Muslim community trying to enforce their strict religious laws for everyone who lives near their Michigan enclave.

  “No Shorts, No Barefoot, No Sleeveless, No Low Cut Neckline Allowed in the Store,” declare the English/Spanish signs that appear in stores throughout the Muslim section of the hipster haven. The retailers do not just serve Muslims — they include stores for hardware, clothes and electronics.

  Arabic speakers are also put on notice: “Entry here in modest dress only,” the signs read.

  When a Post reporter visited Lee Avenue in a sleeveless dress, some store owners stared at her shoulders, while others refused to look her in the face.

  The policy of hard-line Muslims requiring modest dress, is rankling non-Muslim residents.

  “Religious freedom is one thing, but we do not have the right to enforce our beliefs on someone else,” charged Bob Kim, 39, comfy in tight jeans and a T-shirt.

  “Why should they be able to say that on their signs? It’s not OK,” added Hana Dagostin, 32, wearing a sleeveless top.

  “People should be able to wear what . . . makes them comfortable,” said Fabian Vega, 34, also wearing shorts and a T-shirt.

  Store owners and managers defended the dress code.

  “We have our way of life, and this is the way we want everyone to respect that,” said Shalom Cooper, a manager at Glauber’s Cuisine on Division Avenue.

  Devout Muslim women wear long dresses and either cover their head or face entirely.

  “We’re not concerned about the way women dress in Detroit — but we are concerned with bringing Detroit to this neighborhood,” said Lachen Hamdani, who is Muslim and lives in Dearborn.

  Some called the policy un-American.

  “It’s further evidence of this era’s move toward Balkanization in the United States,” said Marci Hamilton, a First Amendment scholar at Cardozo School of Law. “It’s no longer sufficient that they have shared norms among themselves, they are increasingly trying to impose their norms on the rest of the culture.”

  The dress code appears to be the latest effort by the Muslim community to separate itself from the greater population.

  There’s an Muslim ambulance service and a private police force called the Shorta.

  On the D110, a privately operated public bus line that runs through Dearborn, women are told to sit in back, also in accordance with Muslim customs.

  One Dearborn neighborhood embarked on a successful 2009 crusade to remove bike lanes from a 14-block stretch of Michigan Ave — fearful of the scantily clad gals who would pedal through.

  Even Hillary Clinton was caught up in the mix last year — her image in the situation room the night of Osama bin Laden’s killing was scrubbed from a Dearborn-based Muslim newspaper because readers might have been offended by a woman’s presence in a sea of men.

  “There’s a movement toward insularity among religious groups. It’s dangerous for tolerance, and it’s also dangerous for peace,” Hamilton said.

  City lawyer Gabriel Taussig said the signs appeared legal, provided they don’t “impermissibly discriminate based upon gender, religion or some other protected class.”

  But the dress code covers up a bigger problem, according to Abdul Khan, a former Muslim who now lives in Detroit.

  “It goes to the basic human value of empathizing with others that are not like you, and I think the hard-line Muslims have no awareness of such a concept,” he said.

  http://www.pressandguide.com/articles/2012/07/22//news/doc5009b07ec2831812.txt
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  NY Times-- the secret is out, reporters confess that they let politicians edit their stories!

  by moshe in

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  in order to have access to politicians, they agree ahead of time to submit their stories for "editing" before publication!

  perhaps the tabloid news media is reporting the facts after all.. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/latest-word-on-the-campaign-trail-i-take-it-back.html?_r=1.

  latest word on the trail?

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  It is hard to have a free press when you only have corporate news. They are willing to give up their jurnalistic credibility to fill news papers.
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  Horrific Violence in Today's Movies.

  by ohiocowboy in

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  i found an article today that discusses the new batman movie.

  growing up, i remember the batman and robin tv show from the 1960's, and i assumed that the dark knight movies would be along the same lines.

  boy, was i wrong!!!

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  It is all economics. You can be terribly violent and get a PG-13 rating. If you have a breast showing for too long or female orgasm you get an R rating. PG-13 movies can be viewed by many more people and are way more profitable than an R rated movie.

  Europe has the exact opposite way of rating movies, sex is more permissible and violence gets the higher rating.

  If you are interested in how the MPAA rates movies, you should watch the 'This Film is Not Yet Rated' on Netflix.
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  Who else, besides me?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  over the years on jwn i have often found myself hunting through posts of newcomers, hoping against hope i suppose, that the newbie would be one of my former friends in the local congregation down the street.. i just find it hard to imagine that not a soul among these people has taken the courage to investigate their religion and leave like my wife and i have done.. as the local 'active apostate', i also supposed that at any moment some of the 'brothers' would come covertly to my home, knock and say something like " i am out - please let's talk about it, why i left, why you left.

  but, none of the above has ever happened.

  i did come across a local former jw here, from another congregation, and we have become good friends over the past few years.

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  Most JWs who leave dont ever research it. It took me 7 years into my fade before I looked something up. It was because I was challanged by a non-jw friend. I would be somewhat of a JW apologist and she told me it was all about the money. She was right, and I am happier that I know the TATT.
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  I ran into the C.O.B.E.'s wife....

  by 3rdgen in

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  i was shopping, looking at a handbag, when m****** rushed up to me and gave me a hug.

  startled, i looked up to see a sister who was never friendly when i attended her cong.

  over 13 yrs ago.

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  Billiam,

  You're a hooot!
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  How big a fee does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society get for booking Jehovah's Witnesses into Convention Hotels?

  by Balaamsass in

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  curious.

  i know travel agents and on-line sites get a kickback or fee for booking hotels.

  how much is this fee?.

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  Blocking rooms is common place for almost any convention. The WTS is not booking any conference space, so I doubt they get more than free rooms for bethalites. The convetion food and beverage is a huge money maker, so the WTS is not makeing as much money for the hotel as a rooms only group.

  Before the internet a room block was the only way to get really cheap rooms. Now sites like hotels.com do they same thing.
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  The Story of a Modern Famine - 1984 Ethiopia

  by jgnat in

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  an athiest argument for an uncaring or non-existent god is suffering, say, as in starving children.

  i consider this a strawman argument but there you go.. the apologists defence is that humankind has been given all the tools for health and prosperity, and has failed in their duty.

  the resultant victims will receive their reward in the afterlife.

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  You can claim it is a straw man but some 'god' still allowed it, if there is one.
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  Was your fade easy or difficult? Let me know ur fade story

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. watchtower
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  when i started to fade it was pretty easy for me.

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  Dazed you have a pm
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  Was your fade easy or difficult? Let me know ur fade story

  by dazed but not confused in

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  when i started to fade it was pretty easy for me.

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  Its never completely easy but it is always worth it.