ive had a few discussions both here and in real life and often find people excuse the ot with all its vile, violence and only concentrate on jesus because he was good.
i try and assk them to show me an example and they of course they quickly tell us about the miracles, and thats fine.
however when you ask them about slavery, violence, women and so on they make excuses.
It's not if you REALLY think about it, which you haven't yet. Which is pretty crazy considering how much time you have spent in religion.
Actually it is a disgusting blood cult. Muslims and Jews dont buy it. There is only one monotheist blood cult, that asks for blood from a human.
ive had a few discussions both here and in real life and often find people excuse the ot with all its vile, violence and only concentrate on jesus because he was good.
i try and assk them to show me an example and they of course they quickly tell us about the miracles, and thats fine.
however when you ask them about slavery, violence, women and so on they make excuses.
So not believing in the bible is another brand of fundamental thinking? Riiight I they should definately take the WTS pile of shit and just find another group of protestents with a different background. If someone has an impacted colon I dont think they need you to tell them about more BS to eat up. They need to purge and then find something that works for them.
TEC Under the model that Jesus put forth many christians think they are just fine asking him for forgiveness and no one else. No one but god will judge them bla bla bla. A very arrogant model for correcting wrongs.
ive had a few discussions both here and in real life and often find people excuse the ot with all its vile, violence and only concentrate on jesus because he was good.
i try and assk them to show me an example and they of course they quickly tell us about the miracles, and thats fine.
however when you ask them about slavery, violence, women and so on they make excuses.
Sab,
What are you smoking with your MMJ? You are such a self righteous person. What you, Tec, and Aguest dont get is that you turn more people off to Jesus than you could ever hope to convert. You might say that NC or EP do the samething with atheism, but Ill remind you that they dont believe they are saving someones' soul.
Now On to Jesus!
What an incredibly arrogant belief system he left behind. Who else would tell you that you didnt need to ask for forgivness from the person you wronged. You only need to ask him for forgiveness. Then again he does represent ineffectuality nailed to a cross. Who else only taught reused thinking for 3 years.
first of all iam a agnostic.
i,am curious, you who are atheist.
what or how do you deal with a life or death situation.
Jam,
MeanMustard was asking why you capitalize the word A or An in your sentence. (A and An are indefinite articles)
first of all iam a agnostic.
i,am curious, you who are atheist.
what or how do you deal with a life or death situation.
This made me think of a story one of my closest friends told me. When she was sitting in sunday school as a 9 year old they would tell everyone that "Jesus cares about them and answers their prayers." She told me that she would just think, 'He didn't care that I didnt have food for the past 3 days.' Or 'Jesus didn't care that I ate rotten potatoes last night.' She was not angry about any of this at the time. It was just a matter of fact understanding.
ive had a few discussions both here and in real life and often find people excuse the ot with all its vile, violence and only concentrate on jesus because he was good.
i try and assk them to show me an example and they of course they quickly tell us about the miracles, and thats fine.
however when you ask them about slavery, violence, women and so on they make excuses.
We don’t really know that much about Jesus so how can we know he was good. Did he spend the time from 12-29 fucking women and doing drugs? We don’t know. He could have led a Jewish underground group resistance, or he could have had an orphanage. I have no idea why the Son of God and his disciples couldn’t be bothered to tell us what he was doing. If he was the first born of creation who could argue with the Jewish Religious Leaders at 12, by 17 I bet he did some amazing things. But once again we have no idea. His biographers were either hiding something or they were incompetent and lazy.
We could take a 3.5 year snapshot of many people’s lives and be impressed, but we would not have the full story. We could tell a nice story about an Austrian artist or a young Russian seminary student and have no idea what type of people these me really were. We can speculate and talk about the few things Jesus said. He could have been the Greatest Man Who Ever Lived or he could have been a rather plain man with an embellished biography.
It is not like the apostles were above plagiarizing other people's ideas. Just look at the Apostle Paul's scripture about bad association spoils useful habits, he took that right out a play by Menander, a Greek playwright. A play that was written 300+ years before Paul came along. What other thoughts were stolen from ancient writers? These men whose work was not so fortunate to survive the fires of Alexandria or purges from the Catholic Church.
luke 3:14, "also, those in military service would ask him: what shall we also do?
and he said to them: do not harass anybody or accuse anybody falsely, but be satisfied with your provisions.. this scripture boggled my mind even when i was a jw!
why didn't jesus tell them to get out of the military if that is the christain way?
Pretty crazy. Just another bible contradiction.
these are the exact words from the mouth of a 7 year old boy to his father , namely me (the father).
yes i am a non believer but also very concerned that his mother, an active & obsessed jw is filling his mind with this sort of thing.
alarm bells are ringing in my head because last night was not the first time he said it.
This sounds like parental allienation to me. Might be time to hire some professional help, maybe even a lawyer.
my mom has had visits from various jws and they have asked her if they could say a prayer before they left.
i respectfully listened to the prayers while i was visiting and might silently say amen if i felt the prayer was appropriate for my mom.. i'm just curious, how would you handle this type of situation?.
I like to say Ramen....in honor of FSM.
i was talking about this with the mrs., and we can recount at least half dozen cases in the last 20 years of adult j.w.
men having sex with teenage boys or girls.
not only were the police not informed, but also the victim was treated as a guilty party in fornication.
@Balaamass
Band on the Run, normal society has made up it's mind. Statutory Rape is a crime, especially when there is an age difference of 3 years or more.
Society does not agree that it is 3 years age difference. The laws vary wildly by state. In Colorado once a person is over 15-16 there is a 10 year age difference. At 17 they can fully consent. Statutory rape is a crime created by men to protect their daughters virginity. Can you honestly tell me that a 21 year old girl having sex with a 17 year old boy is a crime?
All of Canada has age of consent at 16. Only 13 states believe that sexual consent starts at 18.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
I completely agree that the WTS is dead wrong on this issue. Then again, these are the people who think you can consent to baptisim...er
life long slavery at 10.
